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Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up #1733709 01/19/15 01:19 AM 01/19/15 01:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA W5DART66 OP top fuel
W5DART66 OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA	303cc intake port for you 59* guys. Going on a 472

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: W5DART66] #1733710 01/19/15 01:28 AM 01/19/15 01:28 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Work of art. care to share flow #'s ?

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: tubtar] #1733711 01/19/15 01:32 AM 01/19/15 01:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA W5DART66 OP top fuel
W5DART66 OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA	Quote: Work of art. care to share flow #'s ? Normal deal is 380s-390s 260s-270son exhaust side

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: W5DART66] #1733712 01/19/15 01:38 AM 01/19/15 01:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az D Darryls-Demon super stock
Darryls-Demon super stock D Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az	How good or bad is the air speed with that much port volume Brett? Thanks for the pics.

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: Darryls-Demon] #1733713 01/19/15 01:48 AM 01/19/15 01:48 AM
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W5DART66 OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA	Quote: How good or bad is the air speed with that much port volume Brett? Thanks for the pics. Air speed is still fast this port was on the 2011 engine masters 411ci 535 of TQ at3500 rpm. In the big picture the port is still small 3" at port opening Over 320feetper second down center of port 380-425FPS over short turn. You can have large lazy port or larg port that is designed properly that for the most part has a much more Homogeneous flow floor to roof

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: W5DART66] #1733714 01/19/15 12:41 PM 01/19/15 12:41 PM
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mopar dave master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,041 Mt Morris Michigan	you like those victory valves better than the ferrea 6000? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: mopar dave] #1733715 01/19/15 01:00 PM 01/19/15 01:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: you like those victory valves better than the ferrea 6000? Ferrea 6000s aren't titanium...

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: W5DART66] #1733716 01/19/15 01:03 PM 01/19/15 01:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: Over 320feetper second down center of port 380-425FPS over short turn. I suspect the SpeedTalk gurus would say the fps #s over the SSR are too high, since they seem to claim 350 as the max during multiple threads I've read "over there." Me? I just grind 'em and run 'em! Well, not exactly.

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: BradH] #1733717 01/19/15 01:48 PM 01/19/15 01:48 PM
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ADakotaRTGuy member A Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 193 MD	Nice work, motivation to pull the engine today.

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1733718 01/19/15 02:16 PM 01/19/15 02:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Thanks Brett for the head porn,now you have my attention,curious question,, what was the final chamber size on those beauties. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: W5DART66] #1733719 01/19/15 02:20 PM 01/19/15 02:20 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Brett... I see some welding on them... whats with that or is it where you went through... some spots dont even look near the ports.... but they look great

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1733720 01/19/15 03:01 PM 01/19/15 03:01 PM
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1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Brett... I see some welding on them... whats with that or is it where you went through... some spots dont even look near the ports.... but they look great That's pushrod pinch area, Mopar designed them to run a 550 offset rocker and Brett makes them take a 750 rocker for his port program. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: 1967dartgt] #1733721 01/19/15 03:05 PM 01/19/15 03:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Brett... I see some welding on them... whats with that or is it where you went through... some spots dont even look near the ports.... but they look great That's pushrod pinch area, Mopar designed them to run a 550 offset rocker and Brett makes them take a 750 rocker for his port program.

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: W5DART66] #1733722 01/19/15 05:10 PM 01/19/15 05:10 PM
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Street Monkies member S Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 161 In a house near you	I always like to hear this big lazy port vs a big well designed port kind of discussion. What makes the port to big or even to small? Depending on if we are basing this off for every engine or a particular combination. Big port on small cubes is going to need a lot of rpm to make port efficient. It might never become efficient if you can't spin it high enough. A big ci motor is different. More ci will move more air at a lower rpm vs a small ci. But it also depends on how many rpms, both engine sizes, and rpm. Rpm is cubic inches also.

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: Street Monkies] #1733723 01/19/15 05:43 PM 01/19/15 05:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA W5DART66 OP top fuel
W5DART66 OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA	Quote: I always like to hear this big lazy port vs a big well designed port kind of discussion. What makes the port to big or even to small? Depending on if we are basing this off for every engine or a particular combination. Big port on small cubes is going to need a lot of rpm to make port efficient. It might never become efficient if you can't spin it high enough. A big ci motor is different. More ci will move more air at a lower rpm vs a small ci. But it also depends on how many rpms, both engine sizes, and rpm. Rpm is cubic inches also. How about you go check mis cross section and valve size on 360 LS3 chevy then get back to me on the large port not working on small CI or need big RPM to make it work. A properly designed larger port for giver CI will work better than the BS high velocity small port. And as I said this is only 3" min CS not large by todays standards.

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: W5DART66] #1733724 01/19/15 07:03 PM 01/19/15 07:03 PM
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charger410 member C Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 159 australia	Nice job your right 300cc cross section ain't big especially for that 472ci. I've got a set of SBC heads that have a 338cc port on a 510ci motor. Thanks for posting Peter. Australian Charger, alloy block injected 410in, w9 na 9.03@148 leafs 3000lb 1967 barracuda 605 hemi Stage5 millennium 8.2@170

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: W5DART66] #1733725 01/19/15 07:12 PM 01/19/15 07:12 PM
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pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA.	Quote: Quote: I always like to hear this big lazy port vs a big well designed port kind of discussion. What makes the port to big or even to small? Depending on if we are basing this off for every engine or a particular combination. Big port on small cubes is going to need a lot of rpm to make port efficient. It might never become efficient if you can't spin it high enough. A big ci motor is different. More ci will move more air at a lower rpm vs a small ci. But it also depends on how many rpms, both engine sizes, and rpm. Rpm is cubic inches also. How about you go check mis cross section and valve size on 360 LS3 chevy then get back to me on the large port not working on small CI or need big RPM to make it work. A properly designed larger port for giver CI will work better than the BS high velocity small port. And as I said this is only 3" min CS not large by todays standards. Brett knows as he's had his hands on enough high performance heads but its a lot off work and know how managing and controlling air-speed in MOST of the heads out there. Even something like the set of B1 heads I am doing for my car are hard getting the short-side slowed down. But if you take the time the pay-offs are there. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: pittsburghracer] #1733726 01/19/15 08:04 PM 01/19/15 08:04 PM
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all spooled up super stock A Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,049 ohio	bretts all motor small block dart is only in the 8s

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: pittsburghracer] #1733727 01/19/15 09:08 PM 01/19/15 09:08 PM
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Street Monkies member S Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 161 In a house near you	I was just funning him. Surprised I didn't catch more crap then that lol.

Re: Set of 59* W9s I am finishing up [Re: Street Monkies] #1733728 01/20/15 01:45 AM 01/20/15 01:45 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 792 Earth R Rob C super stock
Rob C super stock R Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 792 Earth	Sarcasim (SP?) gets lost very quickly on the net and when it is written word rather than spoken word. The board here, like any internet board starts to become a tight nit group. Swords are draw first, questions after your diced. Hey Brett! I sure wish they made a lot of those heads. Actually, i still wish they made them. Not that I could make use of them .... yet....

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