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if I use a 2000 ram transmission pan on my big block 727 do I need a filter spacer? if so where do I get one

Re: transmission pan [Re: 17dodgebros] #1733395
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Mancini jegs etc have spacers for I'd think a pan of a certain increased depth but first I'd find out if the 2000 ram 727 uses a spacer (& I'm assuming the height of the VB is the same in all 727's) cuz as you know it's the depth that you are concerned with. What has got you interested in possibly using this pan, is it deeper than the normal 727 pans (I'm assuming yes)


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Re: transmission pan [Re: RapidRobert] #1733396
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I used the deeper steel pan and didn't use a spacer. I was told as long as I keep the fluid level full it was unnecessary.



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Re: transmission pan [Re: BrianT] #1733397
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I would think if you used a deeper pan WO a spacer block that if you filled the fluid up to where it would be with the original pan (read correct on the stick) that when it started pumping, the fluid level with the deep pan would drop below the filter the same as it would with the OE pan cuz the filter ain't extended down/submerged further into the fluid which I think would be needed to take advantage of the extra fluid depth. My point being, with a deep pan dont you need the filter submerged further down into the fluid? (with the spacer). Just thinking out loud before my coffee is ready


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Re: transmission pan [Re: RapidRobert] #1733398
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Why use a deeper pan if you aren't going to take advantage of it. Use a spacer to get to the cooler fluid at the bottom.

Re: transmission pan [Re: BrianT] #1733399
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I used the deeper steel pan and didn't use a spacer. I was told as long as I keep the fluid level full it was unnecessary.




If you stay on perfectly level ground and never accelerate/decelerate rapidly you'll be OK but when the car attitude changes the fluid can climb out of the sump and cause air to be sucked into the trans...the filter needs to be down at the bottom of the sump.


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Re: transmission pan [Re: 17dodgebros] #1733400
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the truck did not have a spacer

Re: transmission pan [Re: John_Kunkel] #1733401
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the filter needs to be down at the bottom of the sump.


I have an aftermarket deep pan/spacer (not sure what brand) & it ain't close (enough) to the bottom like John wants it so I am going to source/make an additional spacer to lower it further (904/circle track app)


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Re: transmission pan [Re: 17dodgebros] #1733402
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the truck did not have a spacer




Because the valve body extended down further? On my 518 it did.

Re: transmission pan [Re: stumpy] #1733403
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I understand it's better to have it low in pan, but don't think its a fair comparison with the engine. There's not distinct level differences in tranny pan. Where exactly would the fluid slosh to? If you keep it full, which is well up into the VB, you would almost need to tip it 90deg to expose the pickup.

Re: transmission pan [Re: BDW] #1733404
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I understand it's better to have it low in pan, but don't think its a fair comparison with the engine. There's not distinct level differences in tranny pan. Where exactly would the fluid slosh to? If you keep it full, which is well up into the VB, you would almost need to tip it 90deg to expose the pickup.


good point, maybe I wont sweat it as much as I was going to


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