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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: TRENDZ]
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For whatever reason a bbc in a fox is easier to service than a 351w, I have worked on both Ina fox chassis and the bbc was easier.
I am a mopar guy through and through but if I somehow lost all my stuff and had to start over.....fox body with a gen III or ls engine.
You can't argue with the ls engine. It's a a tough platform. There is lots and lots of guys running in the 9s with very very stock salvage engines with turbos.
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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Looks like a good idea, but...
Why do you think the hot ones are stroked 302 engines and not 351 engines?
No room under the hood.
302 deck height: 8.206"
351W deck height: 9.500"
LA deck height: 9.600"
Really............how many pics of them do you want with BBC in them with just a small cowl hood. They fit just fine.
As to everyone being sick of the LS deal.........well it is what it is. Excellent motor and dirt cheap to buy
Monte
No, no, no., Im not sick of ls motors as YOU suppose. Its the bickering in the threads about them. Nor am I afraid of innovation as the other poster SUPPOSES. Can you guys read my original post? Is that what this thread is about? I want to hear from guys using mopar setups in other cars. It doesnt make me an ls motor hater. I happen to like them. Its just some of you guys cant read yet.
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: MattW]
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You know, putting your mopar stuff into a different make? If so, what and why? Ive been kicking it around.
Yup 5.0 mustang coupe. Tons of then dirt cheap and tons of aftermarket parts 
^^^This^^^
I thought bout this just a few months ago I have a pump gas BB sitting in the garage now with the prices of Mopar candidates through the roof  why not a foxbody. 
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: TRENDZ]
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I'd never consider it
Too cool. How's it work?
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: Hot 340]
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Guilty, Pontiac firebird-95 with B1 motor.
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: topbrent]
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Crossbreed? Heck yes!
The fantastic Chevy LS3 engine on the stand in my garage is going to make a very fun enhancement to my 66 Coronet.
I'm looking forward to it very much! 
Everybody's read those theads about ls motors in mopars. Its beat to death. But lets make this into ANOTHER one. Come on, seriously. 
Speaking of crossbreeds, look at our country now  Sometimes it is better to not experiment and mess with success, you think    Why would we want to help our opponents get better parts and make there lifes better
Crossbreeding a powerplant is hotrodding fair game and a standard practice in my book. Same logic applies to transmissions, axles, radiators, shifters, suspension, ect.
Aside from your hurt feelings (most certainly not mine), and the generally crappy attitude of most Mopar Luddites towards and regarding innovation, what's not to like about the LS engine swap. Seriously. If you don't understand the appeal and advantages of the LS platform then that is your problem. Seriously.
I didn't post about my LS3 swap to troll for a fight any more than the OP created this post to lure affirmations and create a "rip on brand X" extravaganza. There is a lot of interest in the swap, though most just keep it quiet to avoid the loudmouth haters.
Even though it's the middle of winter and everyone is cranky, lets be play nice and be civil. 
I've asked the same question to those who install them in a GM body. I will agree the basic engine is strong, cheap, and makes decent power. The cheap part only pertains to the engine itself. The rest of the install has way more issues that I stated. The same deal with putting a late Hemi in. Way more than just getting the motor. Not that it's impossible by any means. It's just not the 15 minute, $500, 500HP bolt in that Car Craft makes it out to be. I have to believe a LA bolted into a Mopar would be cheaper, easier and capable of the same basic HP. Now if we're talking 1000+HP racecar stuff with aftermarket parts that's a whole different ballgame. I also agree Hot Rodding is about doing stuff yourself and pushing the envelope. If it's what you like, go for it.Just my 2 cents
Doug
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: dvw]
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I think it's a big no-no over here. You would think it would occur more often given the lack of material compared to you guys. Happens with hot rods a lot, but not muscle cars that I can think of. I only know of two mopar A bodies with Chevy powerplants that race over here and I haven't seen one of them for a long while. IIRC they came that way from the USA.
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: Tig]
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Sure would, I'd stuff my big block into the right body style F100. Mid to late 60's, nice looking truck.
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
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I put a 440 W8 motor in a 88 Mustang about 3 years ago.
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
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motor picture.
Were you able to hook everything into the stock wiring for lights, ect? Did doing away with fuel injection make anything in the rest of the wiring go funky? Streetable?
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: Hot 340]
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Were you able to hook everything into the stock wiring for lights, ect? Did doing away with fuel injection make anything in the rest of the wiring go funky? Streetable?
Keep all the stock wiring for the lights. turn and
brakes... then the engine harness is basicaly separate ..
I've put chevy engines in lots of different cars/trucks
for customers.. this is just your basic hot rodding
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
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I always thought a split window corvette with a six pack 340 and 4 speed would be awesome  , imagine when you open the hood at the corvette meet 
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: Hot 340]
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Looks like a good idea, but...
Why do you think the hot ones are stroked 302 engines and not 351 engines?
No room under the hood.
302 deck height: 8.206"
351W deck height: 9.500"
LA deck height: 9.600"
Really............how many pics of them do you want with BBC in them with just a small cowl hood. They fit just fine.
As to everyone being sick of the LS deal.........well it is what it is. Excellent motor and dirt cheap to buy
Monte
No, no, no., Im not sick of ls motors as YOU suppose. Its the bickering in the threads about them. Nor am I afraid of innovation as the other poster SUPPOSES. Can you guys read my original post? Is that what this thread is about? I want to hear from guys using mopar setups in other cars. It doesnt make me an ls motor hater. I happen to like them. Its just some of you guys cant read yet.
How did you gather I was referring to YOU......because I wasn't......so I don't suppose YOU are anything, other than apparently sensitive........LOL!!!
Probably coolest "swap" I have done was on a 40s Studebaker pickup. Bought a wrecked 73 Satellite 360 "donor" car. Put motor, trans, rear, rad, etc in Studebaker. Built a linkage for stock column shifter to work trans. Used mopar brake assy on firewall, throttle pedal and cable.........everything we could from Satellite. It was pretty cool. Truck looked totally restored until you opened the hood
Monte
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: Hot 340]
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You know, putting your mopar stuff into a different make? If so, what and why? Ive been kicking it around.
Years ago a guy around here had a 72 GTO bracket car that had a big block Mopar
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
[Re: dvw]
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If I hear the word "LS" again I'm going to puke. I mean it must be the "only" engine in the entire world.
Doug
my thoughts exactly
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Re: Ever consider a crossbreed?
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motor picture.
Were you able to hook everything into the stock wiring for lights, ect? Did doing away with fuel injection make anything in the rest of the wiring go funky? Streetable?
Keep all the stock wiring for the lights. turn and
brakes... then the engine harness is basicaly separate ..
I've put chevy engines in lots of different cars/trucks
for customers.. this is just your basic hot rodding
But electronic fuel injection goes into the wiring harness tho. Does leaving the connections to the injectors open cause problems?
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