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Need help with compression test results #1731065
01/16/15 02:03 AM
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Bought a cordoba for the factory 400 it had. Was just gonna pull and store the engine, and part the rest. But, I like how comfy it is and was thinking of doing a little work to make it a daily.

So, 1st up was compression test. I could not find info on what the acceptable PSI range in a 77 400 combustion chamber should be.

Dead god, this was the WORST ASININE compression test Ive ever done. the spark plugs a hidden by high rise manifolds, and smashed up against the steering box/shaft. Getting the plugs out was a little frustrating, but nothing compared to blindly trying to screw in the compression tester... holy crap. took 3hrs to get 6 cylinders.

Here's my results. Test was done while engine cold (its been sitting a month on the side of my house.) I ranged from 120psi to 140psi between the cylinders...

Is this deference too much? Will it cause me problems? All I want to do is throw an edelbrock 1406, vacuum advance distributor, pertronix ignition and coil, new wires and plugs, and delete the A/C and emissions. Just make it a daily driver. All this stuff will cost me around 500, and thats cool with me if I get a daily driver out of it, just worried about those chamber pressures, am I worrying too much for the type of usage that I plan on getting out of it?

Just out of curiosity, what is the tuffest most PITA stock spark plug jobs? I had always thought Big Block A-bodies, but after doing this Big Block Cordoba, I've changed my mind.

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: Adam71Charger] #1731066
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with those readings you will be fine. EDIT Adam take another round of readings when it is warmed up/searing hot for a valid comparison

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Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: Adam71Charger] #1731067
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Those numbers sound fine for a cold 400. I would do a timing chain check and run it. I always changed some of those plugs from the top and some from the bottom, some are just ugly from the top.

Sheldon

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Run it.Not very hard to do a plug replacement on that model,but you'll get better with practice

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: Adam71Charger] #1731069
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For a cold engine that hasn't run in while those numbers are fine....Compression test should be done with warm engine for best results....


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Rick
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Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: RapidRobert] #1731070
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with those readings you will be fine. EDIT Adam take another round of readings when it is warmed up/searing hot for a valid comparison




Is this necessary or just for a malicious good laugh?

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: Adam71Charger] #1731071
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Just go run it. No reason to make things harder than needed.

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: Adam71Charger] #1731072
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You wont be laughing


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Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: goldmember] #1731073
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Run it.Not very hard to do a plug replacement on that model,but you'll get better with practice




Gold member you must have skinny alien fingers and the power of telekinesis. My giant sausage fingers werent happy pinned between the exhaust manifold and power steering gettin at those number 3, 5 and 7 plugs.. then installing them blindly with just the very tips of a couple fingers

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: RapidRobert] #1731074
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You wont be laughing




I didnt think I'd be the one laughing.. just some guy I know from Nebraska

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1731075
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Those numbers sound fine for a cold 400. I would do a timing chain check and run it. I always changed some of those plugs from the top and some from the bottom, some are just ugly from the top.

Sheldon




2 hrs and several emotional outbursts later, I caught onto that

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: RapidRobert] #1731076
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You wont be laughing




but we will ...

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: Adam71Charger] #1731077
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Run it.Not very hard to do a plug replacement on that model,but you'll get better with practice




Gold member you must have skinny alien fingers and the power of telekinesis. My giant sausage fingers werent happy pinned between the exhaust manifold and power steering gettin at those number 3, 5 and 7 plugs.. then installing them blindly with just the very tips of a couple fingers




Doesn't this car have a rag joint between the firewall and the steering box ? or unbolt the engine mount and jack that side up some ?

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: JohnRR] #1731078
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Run it.Not very hard to do a plug replacement on that model,but you'll get better with practice




Gold member you must have skinny alien fingers and the power of telekinesis. My giant sausage fingers werent happy pinned between the exhaust manifold and power steering gettin at those number 3, 5 and 7 plugs.. then installing them blindly with just the very tips of a couple fingers




Doesn't this car have a rag joint between the firewall and the steering box ? or unbolt the engine mount and jack that side up some ?




It's the location of the car that adds to the difficulty of working on it, soft ground full of dead needles falling from the giant cedar tree above it. Hard place to manuever all the equipment that would expediate the work. Hard parts over, just top end work to get it running, then ill bring it round to the driveway and take the front apart and change timing chain.

It's a big ugly turd but Im starting to like it...

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: Adam71Charger] #1731079
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Run it.Not very hard to do a plug replacement on that model,but you'll get better with practice




Gold member you must have skinny alien fingers and the power of telekinesis. My giant sausage fingers werent happy pinned between the exhaust manifold and power steering gettin at those number 3, 5 and 7 plugs.. then installing them blindly with just the very tips of a couple fingers


I have had some interesting vehicles to get at the plugs and thought you could use some moral support to get you through the ordeal. My fingers are long alien sausage looking things that have X-ray vision,night vision and other freaky features unlike most "sausage" fingers. It's a family trait. You'll be ok.

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: goldmember] #1731080
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It really is strange that with such a big car, there is so little clearance for this sort of thing.
My 07 Ram 1500 isn't any fun for plug changes either. Even with the plugs accessed through the valve covers, half the engine rests under the windshield. #s 5 and 7 are also under the brake booster. #s 4 and 6 are really close to the A/C and heater stuff.
We are blessed with easy plug swaps on small blocks. I wish the plugs were the same position on the big blocks.

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: Kern Dog] #1731081
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Haven't done a comp test in a while but try pulling the plugs on a hot 440 in an A body. After burning the paws off me several times , my dad suggested(laughing BTW) that I use a piece of straight rubber hose . just push it on over the end of the plug and twist away. You only need a piece 3-4 inches long .

Re: Need help with compression test results [Re: mopar_man] #1731082
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This thread cracks me up!
I have Hedman headers on a smallblock and I feel your pain.
You have to be a contortionist to get #5 and #7 back in...and if those pipes are hot,you have to have a higher than average pain threshold.
I'll be doing a hot compression test soon enough,so don't think I'm poking too much fun at you.Misery loves company I guess.







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