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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: Bigbeep] #172052
12/22/08 01:23 PM
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Every single person who has ever physically broken one of our starters has been running a crank trigger or a distributor with locked advance. About half of them were using electronic start retard which doesn't seem to always work very well.

We recommend two triggering devices with the second trigger retarded about 20 degrees from the first. You can add a second pickup to the crank trigger arm, or you can add a pickup to the distributor. Start the engine using the retarded trigger and then use a switch on the dash to move to the advanced pickup after the engine starts.

The single light spring in the distributor mechanical advance will work but make sure the advance mechanism always returns to zero. If the mechanism gets a little sticky, the weights won't return all the way using only one light spring.


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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: RobbMc] #172053
12/22/08 02:20 PM
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Anyone running locked timming on the street?

Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: RobbMc] #172054
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My distributor has been locked for 6 years..Compression ranging from 11.8 to 13.3....no start retard or anything, has never kicked back, and start it with the key just like from the factory.

I like it, makes tming it easy(if your light is good)


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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: B3422W5] #172055
12/22/08 02:46 PM
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I run the springs in my MSD dist, no problems with
starting at 14.1:1

Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: Blown61] #172056
12/22/08 06:42 PM
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Anyone running locked timming on the street?






yes



a freind bent the ring gear on his converter and had sent it to turbo action to fix it

when he put the msd retard box in there where no more problems with it


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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: Ari440] #172057
12/22/08 07:53 PM
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I always lock them out, run better, idle better, never a problem staring even with my 13-1 engine... Ive even locked out stock mopar distributors...

Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: BB70DUSTER] #172058
12/23/08 12:07 AM
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Locked in at 35deg .

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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: chryco] #172059
12/23/08 12:41 AM
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will the lean burn distributor work for a locked distributor?

Re: Locked distributor advance #172060
12/23/08 01:15 AM
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will the lean burn distributor work for a locked distributor?


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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: Quicktree] #172061
12/29/08 01:22 AM
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One light spring, interesting

How soon do you get full advance with that setup (MSD dizzy)?




as soon as it starts




problem only running one spring is you some time get rpm's going up and down. if you run one light silver and one light blue it will keep it stable and accomplish the same thing




The silver springs are the lightest, correct?

Why use a blue spring then?

I think I have two silvers in mine at the moment.


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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: Sledge_57] #172062
12/29/08 02:35 AM
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Since it appears most are in favor of locking out the distributor.. Whats the easiest way to lock out a MSD?

Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: Jeepmon] #172063
12/29/08 04:25 AM
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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: sixpackgut] #172064
12/29/08 05:00 AM
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I've offered this once before.

Buy a set of light advance springs.

Remove the two installed springs, install one of the light springs.

Advance is very quick and no starting problems. For the street, you can't beat this little trick

Paul





one light spring




same here..... them big garage door springs suck....


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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: moparniac] #172065
12/29/08 08:31 AM
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Is this on a MSD or a Mopar dist. I have a set of morso light springs I have thaught of putting in my MSD.


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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: Jeepmon] #172066
12/29/08 10:56 AM
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Yes, every engine that idles above 3,000 RPM will do quite well with locked advance.
Others... not so much.

If your engine runs the same with and without advance, there is something wrong with your cam, carb or both.


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Re: Locked distributor advance [Re: T748] #172067
12/29/08 02:22 PM
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