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V-nose vs flat trailers #1718579
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I cant seem to get a good answer regarding this.. Whats the pro's n con's to having a V-nose trailer vs the standard flat front trailer?

I do know you get more storage space with the V-nose, but not sure about aerodynamics and/or gas mileage..

Whats your opinion?

Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Jeepmon] #1718580
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Anything but a big flat wall in front helps... gotta
watch how they measure the length.. most go to the
front of the V so you loose some space if you think
its to the rear of the V.. this is the front of my trailer

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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1718581
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I have not towed with a V-nose, but with the diesel, who cares if its a big flat wall. The aero bubble they put on the flat trailers would be my biggest thing to get if that is what your worried about. Get one with the upper front bubble and top rolled edge if your worried.

I can tell the difference between the last two, one had it, and my current does not. Although the diesel doesn't really care, my engine builders gas 1/2 ton RT did!

And as for storage, a 28 V has way less space than a 28' standard nose trailer....Its 28' to the tip of the V...Not where the V starts.

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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1718582
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I believe there is LESS space up front in a V nose trailer, I believe a 28' trailer is 28'o/a length whether it is a v nose or square. So you will loose the "corners" in a V nose, in essence loosing square footage. Could be wrong but that is how it was explained to me. The reasoning behind v nose was for aerodynamics when towing not more storage space.


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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Dragula] #1718583
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I have not towed with a V-nose, but with the diesel, who cares if its a big flat wall. The aero bubble they put on the flat trailers would be my biggest thing to get if that is what your worried about. Get one with the upper front bubble and top rolled edge if your worried.

I can tell the difference between the last two, one had it, and my current does not. Although the diesel doesn't really care, my engine builders gas 1/2 ton RT did!

And as for storage, a 28 V has way less space than a 28' standard nose trailer....Its 28' to the tip of the V...Not where the V starts.




On the E-way I get 18 mpg with the 43' behind my
05 diesel duallie and with my old flat front I got
14 mpg... same tow rig... and yes Al.. to me you
just loose space and they use the V for aero

Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Jeepmon] #1718584
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I see a lot of V nose snowmobile trailers up here, they have less space in the nose than a same length flat front trailer has Don, do you have a camper shell or are you planning on getting one for your truck? If so you probally wouldn't see any differences in towing mileage, power or wind affects between a flat or V nose with the shell I bought a cab high shell last year and I was hoping and expecting (I didn't get it )a little better mileage towing my 24 ft Pace Shadow but ultimately the right foot controls both the mileage and MPH


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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Cab_Burge] #1718585
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I've never seen inside a V-nose.. only here on the internet and the salesman I spoke to yesterday said they measure to the back of the V.. so the V has that much more storage space...

Guess I wont be believing that salesman anymore..

Thanks guys..

and Cab.... no camper shell in my future.. Its a work truck first, tow vehicle second

Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Jeepmon] #1718586
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i believe v-nose trailers were first developed for snowmobilers to drive in the rear and out the front ,a lot of the earlier ones had a door on one half of the v.later less drag on the front was taken into consideration and they started to sell them as car haulers without the extra door can`t see how they would have more storage room because I can`t see how you could do cupboards in that v front

Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: webemopes] #1718587
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I personally would never buy a v-nose but this guy did a pretty nice job.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=850754


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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Jeepmon] #1718588
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I've never seen inside a V-nose.. only here on the internet and the salesman I spoke to yesterday said they measure to the back of the V.. so the V has that much more storage space...

Guess I wont be believing that salesman anymore..

Thanks guys..

and Cab.... no camper shell in my future.. Its a work truck first, tow vehicle second




Believe the salesman,,,, I have a 24' King America V nose trailer. It measures 24' to the BACK, or where the V starts on the inside. This has been hashed over on here before. If you bought a 26' trailer that measured 26' to the tip of the V, I would agree that you would be losing space. As for mounting cabinets, I mounted mine on the wall of the V on both sides. The KA trailer is not a top of the line trailer, but for $5000.00 brand new in '10 it fit my budget well. 12 volt lights inside with roof vents and plywood walls and 10K gross. I did some painting/cabinets/etc but haven't got around to 120v stuff yet.


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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: pittsburghracer] #1718589
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They can be fixed up nice but you still loose the
front area... if you pay for a 28' I like to get all
the space I can in a 28'... the pointed part on mine
is the forward bed area.. 2 can sleep up there and
I have a couch that can fold out but I never have
and I sleep on the couch(the front is a LQ)

Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: pittsburghracer] #1718590
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I personally would never buy a v-nose but this guy did a pretty nice job.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=850754




The original pic of the inside of that trailer looks just like mine did when I bought it.


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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Jeepmon] #1718591
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I've never seen inside a V-nose.. only here on the internet and the salesman I spoke to yesterday said they measure to the back of the V.. so the V has that much more storage space...

Guess I wont be believing that salesman anymore..

Thanks guys..

and Cab.... no camper shell in my future.. Its a work truck first, tow vehicle second




Rather than believe the salesman or anybody else,,take a tape measure with you.


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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1718592
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A salesman told me v-nose were for pulling with a pick up and a flat front was for suv type vehicle, could be other way around also its been a couple of years now.

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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Jeepmon] #1718593
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As for gas mileage, wind resistance and such, I can't say if it is better than a normal trailer or not. I have always towed it with a X-brand dually w/454 that has an 8' slide-in camper that weighs 1700# and get 7 MPG. Trailer weighs 3200#, car weighs 3100# plus all the other added necessities in the trailer and camper. When I was looking for a trailer, I thought I wanted a Featherlite aluminum 18' open...it was $4999.99 and the enclosed was $5000.00. I kinda' decided that an extra 'garage' was better.


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I think where the length is measured from depends on manufacturer. Mine is 28' to the start of the V. Storage in and under the cabinets all the way to the front. Some problems with that is having to crawl in the cabinet when things slide all the way to the front.
The only thing I have a problem with is when I pull with my motorhome is when turning tight the corner of the home can hit the V half way to the front where a flat front would miss. An extended tongue would solve that problem! Hind sight tho.

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As for gas mileage, wind resistance and such, I can't say if it is better than a normal trailer or not. I have always towed it with a X-brand dually w/454 that has an 8' slide-in camper that weighs 1700# and get 7 MPG. Trailer weighs 3200#, car weighs 3100# plus all the other added necessities in the trailer and camper. When I was looking for a trailer, I thought I wanted a Featherlite aluminum 18' open...it was $4999.99 and the enclosed was $5000.00. I kinda' decided that an extra 'garage' was better.


I think all salesmen, women, lie like a rug The reason I'm saying that is ordered a new 7000 lb. GVW 22 ft. Pace Shadow to tow with my class A motorhome at the time, the salesman said it would weigh right at 2900 lbs empty,it didn't It weighed 4320 when I pcked it up at the Pace factory in Hurricane, UT I had tried to order it with 5200 lbs axles but the saleman said Pace would not put 5200 lbs axles in a 7000 Lb GVW trailer, wrong again I called Pace after I weighed it the first time I went to use it and saw it was way down on the suspension lightly loaded, bottom line is Pace ask why I didn't have bigger axles put in it to start with I explained what the saleman had told me and the Pace rep in IN. said they do that all the time, they'll make it anyway the customer wants I treid contacting the dealer on that and they told me it was THIER policy to not put bigger axles in any trailer they sold(they sold multiple brands, not just Pace) that would allow the customer to exceed the GVW of that trailer I ended up selling that trailer to another NHRA racer that raced a SS 1967 Corvette, he had bought my first 24 Ft 10,000 Lb GVW trailer two years before when he was racing a 1964 Plymouth NHRA A/SA I ended up buying a freinds 1999 24 Ft 10,000 GVW Pace Shadow that I have still have today the best fuel mileage I have got with that trailer weighing 8600 lbs on the axles and 700 lbs on the tongue is 14.5 MPG following some other, more sensible, racers with similar loads in thier same size enclosed trailers The worst MPG was coming back from MATS race several years ago towing at between 65 and 75 MPH into a head wind, one tank average 8.5 MPG I tow it with a 2006 Ram CTD 3500 4 dour 4WD automatic with 3.73 gears front and back, I wished that I could have got 3.54 gears in it instead


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Re: V-nose vs flat trailers [Re: Cab_Burge] #1718596
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I live in northwest Indiana and just bought a new Stealth ultralight all aluminum V nose trailer. I spent several days going to a bunch of differant dealers up here looking at them. First off there are many differant sized V's! Most have a 2 foot V as standard. That was one reason I went with Stealth they have a 3 foot V as standard. Then as someone else already mentioned there are the 5 foot V snowmobile auto hauler combos. I also wanted the 54 inch escape door and most are 48 inch. I am downsizing by one vehicle and used to pull a 24 foot US Cargo with a 3500 360 gas Dodge. I'm now towing with a new 2013 Dodge gas Hemi 1500 8 speed auto. I have pulled both trailers and get between 1 1/2 and 2 miles to the gallon better with the new trailer. You must keep in mind the new trailer also weighs about 1200 lbs less!
I went from a 24 foot box to a 22 foot with the additional 3 foot v. The total length is almost the same as the V runs up into the front frame. If you have any questions send me a pm.

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I think where the length is measured from depends on manufacturer. Mine is 28' to the start of the V. Storage in and under the cabinets all the way to the front. Some problems with that is having to crawl in the cabinet when things slide all the way to the front.
The only thing I have a problem with is when I pull with my motorhome is when turning tight the corner of the home can hit the V half way to the front where a flat front would miss. An extended tongue would solve that problem! Hind sight tho.





I just stated what I have and the measurements. Some of the trailers the others here are talking about must be measured differently. I also agree on the V getting in the way when turning really tight. I had to back up a very crooked driveway to pick up a car a buddy of mine had bought a couple years ago. I told him and another guy to watch CLOSE as my camper may get into the front of the trailer. NOBODY said a word. When I got home,,,about $1200.00 damage to the front of my trailer.!!! I didn't know it had touched until we were unloading everything and I could see daylight in the front of the trailer while walking into it from the rear.


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V nose.... more frontal area no matter how you slice it.

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