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Re: Air filters on race cars?? [Re: sr4440] #1715085
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When we were designing air filters and housing we
designed them for the max power... ALL filters are a
restriction but we had to use that to our benefit..
I prefer to have the filter element as a remote and
plumb the air in with a nice radiused inlet to the
carb or throttle body to straighten the air out

Re: Air filters on race cars?? [Re: radar] #1715086
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I remember a few years ago this came up and everybody was talking about how they use one of those filters that looks like a flat box with a wedge in the front all the air came in the top/front. Don't remember the name. I remember looking them up since I was looking for a better option under my 340 scoop. Too much $$ for my street effort.




UNI air filter.


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Re: Air filters on race cars?? [Re: radar] #1715087
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I remember a few years ago this came up and everybody was talking about how they use one of those filters that looks like a flat box with a wedge in the front all the air came in the top/front. Don't remember the name. I remember looking them up since I was looking for a better option under my 340 scoop. Too much $$ for my street effort.




Uni-Filter, they are expensive.....

http://www.hoffpro.com/category_s/95.htm

Re: Air filters on race cars?? [Re: ProSport] #1715088
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If my car ever makes it to a track I will probably use a screen from Intensity, it will at least keep rocks and birds out. I can only fit a 10x2.75 air cleaner on my car and there's no way it will feed a 500" engine at WOT. Speaker covers work also, as Sixpackgut mentioned.

I had a 340 Scamp years ago that ran great with a 14x5 K&N but my big block cars have always slowed down with an air cleaner so I ran for many years without one.

http://intensityracingproducts.com/proseriesscreens.html

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UNI filter worked well with our cowl hood on our W5 mill.... unfortunately this set up came in at .75" too high, so the 4150 carb is on for the time being. I never ran a filter on the Mirada. Dang top of the carb was up in the Dart Sport hood scoop I was running.... no room.

....and yes, these are basically "bug and rock" catchers imho, kind of like the K&N filters I see in so many diesel trucks.... with blowby.


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I believe this is ActionAnge's car?
He runs 10's with no problems, 11" air bell and 9" Xstream top.

Re: Air filters on race cars?? [Re: J_BODY] #1715091
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UNI filter worked well with our cowl hood on our W5 mill.... unfortunately this set up came in at .75" too high, so the 4150 carb is on for the time being. I never ran a filter on the Mirada. Dang top of the carb was up in the Dart Sport hood scoop I was running.... no room.

....and yes, these are basically "bug and rock" catchers imho, kind of like the K&N filters I see in so many diesel trucks.... with blowby.






The Uni you show here.. how tall is it... I have to
find something(or build) to fit under my cowl hood..
with a 4150 I can fit a 14 X 3" but with the new
throttle body it sits taller... plus I have to have
a spacer to clear the linkage

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Re: Air filters on race cars?? [Re: J_BODY] #1715093
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http://shop.unifilter.com/c/automotive_racing-air-filters

measurements included....



The replacement filters are cheap. I can make my own pan.
Doug

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From the measurements it looks like I might be making
something... but I'll make my final measurements today
when I can close the hood(still working under there
so I have to clear some stuff out of the way)

Re: Air filters on race cars?? [Re: J_BODY] #1715095
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UNI filter worked well with our cowl hood on our W5 mill.... unfortunately this set up came in at .75" too high, so the 4150 carb is on for the time being. I never ran a filter on the Mirada. Dang top of the carb was up in the Dart Sport hood scoop I was running.... no room.

....and yes, these are basically "bug and rock" catchers imho, kind of like the K&N filters I see in so many diesel trucks.... with blowby.







Wanna sell it by chance? If not cool and I really need to either make something like this or make one like Mike said that fits the entrance and leaves the carb open. I also wonder about the different shapes and locations and it`s affects on air flow w/these different designs(Uni)type being that there`s a wall if you will around the carb instead of air flowing over and through like the standard round types..............


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not for sale.... I'll end up with a 4500 on this engine eventually. Just going to play with it with the 4150 for a bit. I actually have an intake that has been modded for a 4500 now on the other engine I picked up.

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No problem.................. Time to get my thinking cap on and see how I can improve my set up some.


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Re: Air filters on race cars?? [Re: Thumperdart] #1715098
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Wanna sell it by chance? If not cool and I really need to either make something like this or make one like Mike said that fits the entrance and leaves the carb open. I also wonder about the different shapes and locations and it`s affects on air flow w/these different designs(Uni)type being that there`s a wall if you will around the carb instead of air flowing over and through like the standard round types..............




IF these are like I think they are then the area
that they have with less filtering is equal to something
like a 14" X 4" round with the standard filter.. just
a guess on its filter micron

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Haven't tried running without it yet. Any debris in there could be expensive. I believe Procharger recommends a filter.

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I think I'll do like Doug did and make a base for
the Uni... but I need to make a plate to seal in the
cowl so I'll see what I can come up with.. first I
need to get the injection running... see if I can
down load the basic program today if I get the chance

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I run a 14 x 3 filter in a Ram Air Box. I picked up .2 in the qtr and 4 mph with this setup vs an open carb unfiltered with no hoodscoop.


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I run a 14 x 3 filter in a Ram Air Box. I picked up .2 in the qtr and 4 mph with this setup vs an open carb unfiltered with no hoodscoop.





It should since you were putting some pressure to the
intake with that set up

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The pro stockers run K&N filters in their scoops. It straightens out the air flow. That's the secret. Straighten out the air flow. It allows the carb to perform its simple task.

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The pro stockers run K&N filters in their scoops. It straightens out the air flow. That's the secret. Straighten out the air flow. It allows the carb to perform its simple task.




Never seen one in there when I looked...........


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