2015 Charger ideas
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12/22/14 10:03 PM
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So, I'm heavily considering trading in my Ram early in the spring for a new Charger R/T. Is the suspension the same as the 11-13? I'm thinking some ESP action. I figure some 20x9.5s with 275s like the Hellcat for track tires. Looking at the Hotchkis stuff already...  Everybody, spend money I don't have on something I don't have yet! Looking to use it for some SCCA autocrossing and track days in the spring. Going to try to squeeze in a SCCA Starting Line session and get some serious seat time and pointers to improve my driving. I'm most likely going to be busy the second half of this year with other stuff so the car hobby will be on hold.
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Re: 2015 Charger ideas
[Re: TC@HP2]
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12/23/14 01:59 PM
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The cost of owning a Hellcat is more than just the purchase price. Wonder what the insurance hit is? For those that live in personal property tax states, what's the annual tax hit? Not to mention the dealer markup hit if you go that route. Heck the MSRP isn't much less than I bought my house for, about the same if you add the average dealer markup in. While I know you can always sleep in your car but you can;t drive your house, my old lady doesn't buy into that philosophy.
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Re: 2015 Charger ideas
[Re: Dan@Hotchkis]
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12/23/14 03:00 PM
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You can already get the Hellcat rotors and calipers through the dealer for a price that crushes anything else aftermarket.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: 2015 Charger ideas
[Re: Dan@Hotchkis]
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12/23/14 03:04 PM
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From my research and personal experience, this is how the 3 versions compare. There might be some minor differences because I ran Rivals once, but nothing to drastic.
At Gingerman on the long course...
2013 R/T 5.7 Challenger 6 speed with Super Track Pak, stock tires and stock brakes : 1:50.8
2013 SRT8 Core Challenger 6 speed, Rivals and stock brakes: 1:47.8
2015 Hellcat Challenger, all stock Automobile Magazine test: 1:45.8
So, the question is, can the R/T pick up 5 seconds a lap for a reasonable price? I say yes. I really think that the R/T with bolt-on's could pick up that difference.
Going from the R/T to the Core, the only change is power and brakes. Honestly, the brakes are not that big of an improvement if you are going for a single lap flyer. The split between an R/T an the Core is all power. The 5.7 can make the same power with some bolt-on's, cam swap, etc... so that is easily done.
The next 2 seconds the Hellcat has on the Core is all power and some tire. Already talked to the engineers about the brakes, the Hellcat has them for for the additional weight, marketing and repetitive lapping. Going from the Core time to the Hellcat can be done with suspension, wheels, tires and brakes. That 2 seconds at Gingerman can easily be made up by a stock engine 6.4.
Save your money, if you want to just drive the thing and do an occasional track day, buy and mod the R/T. My R/T would lay rubber for as long as I wanted, so having 707 for burnouts is not really necessary. The most epic burnout I've ever done was in my Core. It only stopped because I got bored.
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Re: 2015 Charger ideas
[Re: 72Swinger]
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12/23/14 03:04 PM
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Quote:
You can already get the Hellcat rotors and calipers through the dealer for a price that crushes anything else aftermarket.
Part Numbers, or it didn't happen.
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Re: 2015 Charger ideas
[Re: Dan@Hotchkis]
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12/23/14 04:25 PM
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Right now it looks like its a bolt on swap for SRT8's from what I gather, R/T's may need some tweaks.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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