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1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread #1713368
12/20/14 11:22 PM
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As some of you know we picked up Chris Johnston's back '66 Charger a few months back. This thread is going to help consolidate my various questions as we go along.

Basic drive train stats:

Engine:

4.375" bore 400 block
4.25" stroke 4340 crank
6.535" h-beams
-12.5cc Diamond pistons with H13 pins (10.8 sCR)

Hughes CNC ported Edelbrock MW heads
Jones custom roller
1.7 ratio rocker arms

Indy tunnel ram
(2) HVH 4150 to 4500 adapters
(2) 1050-AN 4150 QF carbs

Trans:

Lenco ST-1200 4-speed
10.5" two-disc indestructible clutch

Rear Suspension:

Dana w/ 4.56's
Strange axles
Ladder bars with coil overs
(provisions for in-board leaf springs as well)
unknown non-adjustable shocks

Front Suspension:

Stock, in need of serious rebuild
16:1 manual steering box coming soon

Body:

Shooting for around 3000 lbs with a 16 gallon fuel cell, two seats and license plates.

We are finally to the point of mocking things up to get the shifter position to they guys at Lenco and fabbing up the slide rails for it to rest on.

If you see anything in the pics that could be done better or smarter please don't be afraid to chime in. I sure could use the advice.

Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: Jeremiah] #1713369
12/21/14 06:31 AM
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Yeah buddy!

Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: Jeremiah] #1713370
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Looking good Jeremiah! Will be following your progress with interest!
Run it on E85 and you can pick up some free extra horses


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Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: Swedcharger67] #1713371
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What?
I do not recall Chris mentioning in any of his adds that he had paper on the car.
Dang it! Would love to see that thing terrorizing public streets...


"Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines
Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: MoparBilly] #1713372
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What?
I do not recall Chris mentioning in any of his adds that he had paper on the car.
Dang it! Would love to see that thing terrorizing public streets...



Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: Jeremiah] #1713373
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Today we got the engine placement all set for cutting open the floor pan for the Lenco.

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The motor plate in the car has the engine tilted 3 degrees rearward (with lots of weight missing on the front end). Is this a good starting point or should I shoot for 5 degrees?

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The motor plate in the car has the engine tilted 3 degrees rearward (with lots of weight missing on the front end). Is this a good starting point or should I shoot for 5 degrees?





It will effect where the pinion angle will be set. Ron

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That is a very good point Ron. I'll measure the pinion angle at the differential yoke and report back.

Anybody have an opinion on how the pinion angle should be set in a car with ladder bars and coil overs?

Now on to the next mock up hurdle. The Enderle tunnel ram linkage does not quite fit my Indy manifold. The spacer that bolts to the center intake bolts leaves the throttle pivot too far inboard. I think the easiest way to handle this is move the bracket out and ditch the spacer. I'll let the pictures illustrate.

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Here is a pic of the throttle pivot pieces that bolt to the manifold:

Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: Jeremiah] #1713378
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This gives you an idea of how it fits. I the adapter piece moved the pivot out it would be cool. It will also need some clearance to clear the intake runners. I think there are two options. One is to make a new spacer that moves the linkage out and continues to utilize the two center manifold bolts.

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Try making the bottom brackets set at 90 degrees apart from to each other, these types of throttle linkage take time and effort to get correct. The dang mounting hieght on the side pivots above the carbs can affect them Take your time, have fun and let us know your results


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If you were paying attention you may have noticed the space left between the manifold and head due to the raised ports of the Victor head. I am thinking of drilling and tapping a few holes in the manifold and bolting the pivot arm directly to the manifold. I figure if the holes are heli-coil'd they should be just fine strength wise. I will also put an end mill to the holes in the pivot arm bracket to slot them for ease of linkage alignment. AM I missing something or on the right track here?

Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: Jeremiah] #1713381
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That is a very good point Ron. I'll measure the pinion angle at the differential yoke and report back.

Anybody have an opinion on how the pinion angle should be set in a car with ladder bars and coil overs?

Now on to the next mock up hurdle. The Enderle tunnel ram linkage does not quite fit my Indy manifold. The spacer that bolts to the center intake bolts leaves the throttle pivot too far inboard. I think the easiest way to handle this is move the bracket out and ditch the spacer. I'll let the pictures illustrate.





What`s w/the 2 different carbs? I hope they`re calibrated the same cos if not........... Lookin good man...........


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The back carb is mock up my man...the other one is on this until I have time to swap to the down leg 1050:

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Hey I've driven that car


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68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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She is a beauty.................


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Quote:

That is a very good point Ron. I'll measure the pinion angle at the differential yoke and report back.

Anybody have an opinion on how the pinion angle should be set in a car with ladder bars and coil overs?

Now on to the next mock up hurdle. The Enderle tunnel ram linkage does not quite fit my Indy manifold. The spacer that bolts to the center intake bolts leaves the throttle pivot too far inboard. I think the easiest way to handle this is move the bracket out and ditch the spacer. I'll let the pictures illustrate.




For your engine placement point the C/L of the engine
trans right at the pinion so its all in line with
zero pinion at this time... then roll the pinion
down 2* for your ladder bar.... I use a laser pointer
in a block that mounts into the rear main but that
wouldnt help you out... I need to make one up that
mounts on the trans trailshaft so it would show you
where its at on the pinion

Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1713386
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Nice car. I like that body style, color, and wheel choice.


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67' charger 499 RB 10.57 at 127
Re: 1966 Charger Strip/Street Car Build Thread [Re: dragram440] #1713387
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That car would stand on the bumper with the 727 and 528. Should be interesting lol.

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