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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
[Re: Kern Dog]
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12/06/14 12:18 AM
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I'm not so sure that a torsion bar break would be catastrophic during spirited driving. I'd think that most people using the bigger bars also have the car lowered a bit, reducing the "drop" or travel in the event that one would break.
I've seen broken T bars in junkyard cars, mostly always seems to be the RH side on A body, slant six cars with the twig-like .83 bars. You know they were NOT doing 4 wheel drifts when the bar broke!
Well, I'd rather not have a major suspension component snap under heavy load, while apexing a curve...but that's just me. Color me nutty I guess.
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
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12/06/14 03:48 PM
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my real worry is that a broken t-bar becomes harpoon material. wouldn't want that coming up through the floor and into my bits and pieces. granted that would be an extreme crash scenario. also those bars look like cast parts compared to my MP 1.1 bars, the ends on mine are gnarly and don't have any smooth lines, although the over-all dimensions are fine. i wonder what the difference is in mfg process? oem bar on the left MP 1.1 bar on the right. 
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...down to only 1 mopar for the first time in 15 years!
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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12/08/14 01:00 PM
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No, I think they saw the pics in this topic and the damage was probably obvious enough for them to send out a new bar.
That's the usual worry we have overhere when it comes to warranty issues; having to send stuff back again overseas with the shippingcosts making it uninteresting to persue the warranty.
I think JS did a nice job in dealing with this.
The hex ends are not milled or machined at all, they are forged.
I had another close look at the broken hex end the other day and noticed the crack runs up upto the end of the bar.
Something to consider... It's possible they sent you restocked bars. Bars that were returned. It's possible they were hammered on during install at one time.
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
[Re: dickdale]
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12/08/14 03:44 PM
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Herman, do you have to sent the broken bar back to JS, so they can figure out what happend?
I personally think that when milling the hex on the bar a miniscule fracture developed.
I would think the supplier/manufacturer would out of general professionalism would want to study the broken bar, unless this is a common failure for their product, unbeknownst to us, or they don't care. I am sure the op would be willing to cut off the end say up to 8" and return ship at their cost. I don't see how any hammering without very visible abuse could cause this issue in the first place, maybe only aggravate a hidden defect. I would at this point in the discussion insist on replacing both bars if my car.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
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03/09/15 08:34 PM
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Topic-update; Turned out JustSuspension shipped me 2 new torsion bars instead of the expected 1 bar. Perhaps they had a known bad batch or something and it didn't want to take a chance on the other bar. Anyway, more kudo's to them for that. 
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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03/10/15 03:12 AM
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That was smart on their part, I agree. However, sure looks to me like a rather sharp transition at the hex for some reason, FWIW.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
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03/10/15 06:48 PM
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It's rounded enough to prevent stress risers.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
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03/10/15 08:30 PM
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I was never on board with the one bar idea.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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03/11/15 04:27 PM
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Update on this topic;
Just got word from SixPackSpeedshop.nl (that's the dutch shop through which I purchased the torsion bars initially) that they already had contacted Just Suspension.
They sent a link to the pics and Just Suspension will be sending out a new bar to the speedshop's shipping container.
Sounds like a Top Notch service from both Just Suspension and SixPack Speedshop here in the Netherlands.
NO NO NO! You got very lucky as to when the bar broke and might not be so lucky next time. What is a simple problem at low speeds becomes a death threat at 60+ mph.
How a car reacts at speed is completely different than just driving around town. Anyone who's had to do a panic stop from 70 mph understands.
Don't use those bars, get a 100% refund from them and buy MP or Firm Feel. 
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
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03/11/15 08:38 PM
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BBMopar -- Your 1" bars are still very weak.. I recommend something larger such as 1.10, 1.12, 1.14... you will not regret it and only make you wonder why you didn't get a larger size to begin with... and since you have a BB in the car, the larger size TB will grossly reduce deep diving, as well as excessive front lifting. The ride will not dissapoint you on the street.
I know some a-body drivers with the 1.14 TBs and love them on the street/hwy... the way the car should have come from the factory for improved handling. FF has what you need... and ultimately want.
Mopar Mitch
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Re: My JustSuspension 1" T-bars - 1 down, 1 to go....
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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03/12/15 05:47 PM
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The day after the bar broke I already decided to order a pair of 1.12" bars from Firmfeel.  But since they were in backorder at the time I still haven't seen them. My Dart still has the SB and I recently upgraded to an alum 4bbl intake from the castiron 2bbl intake. But I still want to add some reinforcements like innerfender and radiator support braces and front/rear torqueboxes to firm up the body a bit more.
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on the 1.12", your time out is over 
