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Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 01:53 PM
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So in the whole safety issue with the T/F and T/A cars going too fast, they shorten the stripe to 1000ft. In no time flat, they are back up to the speeds they were. So it only helped the real short term outcome. My debate here is- If they wanted to slow them down, why didn't they just cut the motor size back to, let’s say, 400ci? That’s a great way to slow the cars down. I feel they would't be up to the speeds they are running now or then. A much bigger learning curve. They would still be racing to the 1320ft stripe too. But most of all, the technology gained by trying to make big power from smaller cubic inches. That could benefit all car manufactures across the board. Plus it would help all of us that are on the slower end of the drag racing ladder as well.  Is there any chance of this ever happening? What are your thoughts? 
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 02:33 PM
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I don't think speed is the issue, it's the length of the shut down area. some tracks have a short shut down area.
 I agree with this. Shortening the race to 1000' was the one thing they could do Immediately to make things safer, until they could find the long term answer, which they haven't yet.
Reducing cubic inches would just cause them to spin them higher rpm's which equals more breakage, more money.....and they would soon be in the same position again soon.
No easy answer.
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 03:00 PM
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There are lots of ways to cut the balls off of those cars. I wish they would have limited the motor size and the amount of boost and/or blower size. If you slow them down they don't need the extra length for the shut down. Then the "safety" due to a slower car comes back. I just see tons of tech benefits from limiting the motor some how. Don't shorten the distance to the finish line. IM  O
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 03:09 PM
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cutting the race short is cheaper than re-designing the engine...not that this level of racing is low-buck, but how much resistance would there be if everyone had to re-evaluate there entire program... That being said, I follow street/grudge racing more than NHRA 
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 03:27 PM
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I have no doubt there would be resistance. But there is with every rule change.
Look at how often the bikes have to re-evaluate their program during the season. Due to "balancing" the playing field between Harley's and Suzuki's. It's not cheap for them either. They still do it though. I'v seen the same thing in pro-mods. Blower cars or N2O cars get a rule change mid season. They make the changes and go on.
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 03:39 PM
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The speed of the T/F cars is what the people go to the Race to see.I had rather see them cut the cars back to a 1/8 mile race than slow them down where they can safely race 1/4 mile!
When the T/F dragsters & Funny Cars run the bleachers are full,most don't even stay in their seats to watch the Pro-Stock cars run.Its all about the speed!
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 04:59 PM
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The cars are EASY to slow down, if that's what you truly want to do. All it takes is this simple rule change.....ONE FUEL PUMP, ONE MAG.
Monte
For awhile anyway. Then the new pumps come out with a 4" sewer line and 10 gazillion volt mags.
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 05:01 PM
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The cars are EASY to slow down, if that's what you truly want to do. All it takes is this simple rule change.....ONE FUEL PUMP, ONE MAG.
Monte
For awhile anyway. Then the new pumps come out with a 4" sewer line and 10 gazillion volt mags.
Easy again........"spec" pump and mag.
And believe it or not, THIS change would likely make the class more affordable. Lets face it, right now the engines are on a "fuse" and they just try and push as much fuel, boost and lead into it before that fuse expires. If the amount of fuel you can get into the motor is the limiting factor, then guys would be more focused on HOW THEY USE the power, instead of just constantly trying to make more. NOT saying power management is not important now, it is, but it would become paramount in the other scenario
Monte
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 05:11 PM
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They know how to drink beer though.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. 
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 05:23 PM
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The cars are EASY to slow down, if that's what you truly want to do. All it takes is this simple rule change.....ONE FUEL PUMP, ONE MAG.
Monte
For awhile anyway. Then the new pumps come out with a 4" sewer line and 10 gazillion volt mags.
Easy again........"spec" pump and mag.
And believe it or not, THIS change would likely make the class more affordable. Lets face it, right now the engines are on a "fuse" and they just try and push as much fuel, boost and lead into it before that fuse expires. If the amount of fuel you can get into the motor is the limiting factor, then guys would be more focused on HOW THEY USE the power, instead of just constantly trying to make more. NOT saying power management is not important now, it is, but it would become paramount in the other scenario
Monte
Do you feel that would be a possibility? And if they did do that, would they give them the 1320 back?
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Re: Ok, I’m in one of my moods again….
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11/13/14 05:26 PM
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The cars are EASY to slow down, if that's what you truly want to do. All it takes is this simple rule change.....ONE FUEL PUMP, ONE MAG.
Monte
For awhile anyway. Then the new pumps come out with a 4" sewer line and 10 gazillion volt mags.
Easy again........"spec" pump and mag.
And believe it or not, THIS change would likely make the class more affordable. Lets face it, right now the engines are on a "fuse" and they just try and push as much fuel, boost and lead into it before that fuse expires. If the amount of fuel you can get into the motor is the limiting factor, then guys would be more focused on HOW THEY USE the power, instead of just constantly trying to make more. NOT saying power management is not important now, it is, but it would become paramount in the other scenario
Monte
Don Garlits said this years ago. Make them all use a spec fuel pump.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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