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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1692030
10/29/14 11:55 PM
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BB's and Hemi's were all the rage forever until the W8 came along.




what's a W8 cost? I mean say from carb to oil pan?



If you look hard you can buy complete minus carb for $6-7k. That's with an R block

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: SpareParts] #1692031
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The way I see it SB will always run more weight to cubic inch than a BB. Now you put the same weight to a BB as too a SB and the BB can even get out of its own way!


70 Duster W8 motor.
1.29 60ft 5.79 1/8 at 120 mph
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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: SpareParts] #1692032
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BB's and Hemi's were all the rage forever until the W8 came along.




what's a W8 cost? I mean say from carb to oil pan?



If you look hard you can buy complete minus carb for $6-7k. That's with an R block






that's a lot of money for a door stop


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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Ari440] #1692033
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Because Big block's Suck

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: SB412DUSTER] #1692034
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Because Big block's Suck





big small blocks are a wanabe big block


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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Ari440] #1692035
10/30/14 02:08 AM
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BB's and Hemi's were all the rage forever until the W8 came along.




what's a W8 cost? I mean say from carb to oil pan?



If you look hard you can buy complete minus carb for $6-7k. That's with an R block






that's a lot of money for a door stop



That's a 9.85 in your sig, not an 8.85..... around here the 4 cylinder guys can out run that

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Ari440] #1692036
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Because Big block's Suck





big small blocks are a wanabe big block




I'm glad mine's not a big small block

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: SB412DUSTER] #1692037
10/30/14 02:19 AM
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Aussie Valiant's are all A Bodies, and were never available with a BB from the factory. So for me, it was availability. Some guys here just love Hemi 6's, so it's horses for courses I guess.
I am yet to see a Big Block mopar with Wedge heads make the HP/cube that a W8 engine can make.


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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: SB412DUSTER] #1692038
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Because Big block's Suck




To each is own but I got to like'n 764ftlbs@3500rpm naturally aspirated out of my BB and have yet to find a SB to match it. And that's on 89.5 octane.Dave

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: quickd100] #1692039
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I had a nice, mild, 550 horse iron head 440 when I bought my Duster. The Duster came with a 340. I looked at the 340, looked at the 440, looked at 340, looked at the 440 and decided to sell the 440. Been running small blocks ever since.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1692040
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I like watching the expression on the brand X guys face when they look at my car in my pit and realize they just got out run by a n/a small block. They first look for a monster under the hood then they look for the bottle......finding neither.

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1692041
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Test and tune night running a motor that looks like an almost bone stock 340 to the layman and running low 11s. Victims included a blown big block IROC Camaro as well as a few other big block cars that wanted to know where the N2O bottle was hidden. Hard to convince some guys the car had no bottle and running pump gas. But a stroker kit and and well ported Eddy heads have embarrassed a lot of iron the last couple of times out. ...or a Show-N-Go at an 1/8 mile track and have your stock looking small block car beat up on cars that have the words Boss, 454, or Hemi on the side...it feels good. If I were choosing a show or collector car, I'd obviously rather have a big block. But for my cheap junk on a budget, I have no interest in a BB.


Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #1692042
10/30/14 11:49 AM
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We race small blocks because we don't know any better.

And with boost - my small block THINKS it's a big block anyway.

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Duner] #1692043
10/30/14 11:58 AM
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Duner FTW!

I love racing a big block. Distributor in the front, external oil pump, flat pan gasket, cheap, easy, reliable horsepower.

But I can't figure out how to shoehorn one in here, and keep my 62 Valiant a street car. So it will remain a small block, and I will continue to marvel at how hard guys are willing to work to make these things fast. Huge respect to all of them.


"Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines
Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: quickd100] #1692044
10/30/14 11:59 AM
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Because Big block's Suck




To each is own but I got to like'n [Email]764ftlbs@3500rpm[/Email] naturally aspirated out of my BB and have yet to find a SB to match it. And that's on 89.5 octane.Dave




That's because there's never been a 600+" small (Mopar) block.

Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: 340B5] #1692045
10/30/14 12:02 PM
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My 496 would spin 9300+ in a heartbeat if you weren't careful in the waterbox without a pill. I may have went over (way over) the first time cause I wasn't watching the tach. I saw 9300+ the second time.

Big blocks can and do rev.


Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: Airwoofer] #1692046
10/30/14 12:44 PM
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1. Because I'm crazy-- Deviate from the norm
2. To show bowties and big blocks their way isn't the only way.
3. To do it my own way damnn it
4. Because I've always raced SBMs and I've acquired quite a few parts
5. Continue to repeat 1 & 2

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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: DavidDean] #1692047
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Majority of people look under the hood of mine and dont know what it is with the wide W8 valvecovers and cam driven distributor.Most people see mine run think it has a Hemi in it,lol


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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1692048
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391 small block
turn up the volume...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRWE689mc2U


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Re: Why do guys race small blocks? [Re: quickd100] #1692049
10/30/14 02:24 PM
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That red Duster runs 134 MPH in the 1/8 mile. I call it a dragster in a can!!

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