1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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When fitting a 68 kframe in a 64/65 do you use the later idler arm or the correct year model item . The pitman arms , manual steer , appear to be the same . I do have a 68 steering box to use . I know the motor sets back about 1 1/2" . I presume header choice is not compromised . I am using a Milodon road race pan . If I do this I will look to fit heim joint strut rods at the same time Am I missing anything ?
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Re: 1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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Unless you are using a motor plate that frame will move the motor in the wrong spot. It will move it forward about 1 1/2 in. Then you will have header fitment problems. Sorry read it wrong. You use 68 parts and 66 and later headers and a modified trans mount.
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Re: 1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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It will move the motor back about 2 inches.Then if u run a 727 u just have to cut a small piece of the trans tunnel out for clearance.We did it to my dads 63 ply and it worked real nice.
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Re: 1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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We did this swap on a 64 Plymouth about 6 years ago. Use the front end components from the year specific K-frame. The pinch weld in the tunnel will have to be flattened and you will need to use a BFH on the tunnel where the accumulator in the trans will contact the tunnel. Kick-down linkage, if used, can be made to work if you use the one-piece unit. The crossmember can be modified and use the cheaper 66 and later trans mount. 66 & later headers will work and a 66 and later oil pan will fit. Will post pics.
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Re: 1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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Trans mount. I mocked up a block and trans case in the car to get the correct position of the pocket for the mount.
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Re: 1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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Bottom pic. Pocket is a piece of 2x3" rectangular tubing, boxed on the bottom.
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Re: 1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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I have a 67 K frame in my 65 -
I have 66 up headers and a scatter shield - the clutch linkage is a perfect line up - goes right through the header opening.
My 6 cylinder b body 65 Z bar is a close fit as well.
I gutted a stock 65 trans cross member and have tacked in a trans mount out of a diplomat - I cut the metal out of the dippy trans mount and its a near perfect fit for the 65 cross member. I might have pics.
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Re: 1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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When I went to replace and or check the pitman and idler arms - Napa listed the same part numbers for 65 and 67. Maybe they ahve it incorrect - but I would use the same years. Both of mine are early B body
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Re: 1968 Bbody Kframe in 1964/65 Bbody question
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thanks for the extra info and pics .
Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive
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Gutted stock unit with diplomat center
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