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68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj #1684009
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finally got back to illinois to check the ol girl out... pulled the rockers, pushrods and lifters. it appears my issue was stuck lifters, pushed down with all my weight and the pushrod cup had no give at all. the wear surface looked fine and from what i could see through the head the cam lobes looked fine. i'll be doing an oil change on her soon as i'm done with my buick t-type, at which point i'll cut open the filter for further investigation of cam wipeage. would it be best to purchase all new lifters and pushrods or just lifters?

my cam is a crower 32240 cam. intake/exhaust: 260/267 degrees with .456/.477 lift. was wondering if anyone had an idea where i can get some good quality lifters and pushrods for this cam? if i do need them.

thanks all, can't wait to get back into this satellite! the buick has been fun but my blood runs mopar

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1962 Chrysler 300 convertible 383/727
1970 Dodge A108 Boogie Van 318/727
Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684010
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another lifter

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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684011
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pushrod tip

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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684012
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Are you 150% sure it's not an exhaust leak ? A leak at the head will sound like a lifter tick.

Those parts aren't in my hand so I can't say whether they are good or bad for certain.

Do you have a magnifying glass to look at the base for pitting ?

Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684013
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it appears my issue was stuck lifters, pushed down with all my weight and the pushrod cup had no give at all.


Not sure if that is enough pressure to make em bleed out & I sure wouldn't think they'd all be locked. I'd take em apart/clean/reassemble/reinstall. As you know the innards go back into the same lifter body they came out of/lifters go back in the same block hole they came out of. On reassembly I lightly lube the plunger for reinstallation into the lifter body but do not fill em up with eng oil but let the preoil with the hex rod fill each one to it's proper height when everything is installed ready to go


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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: RapidRobert] #1684014
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Might try soaking them in Marvel Mystry Oil. Re-install and then run a pint in while running. I did that and problem solved.

Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: dart4forte] #1684015
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A bad valve will tick also.


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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684016
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Show us a picture of the top of the lifter, all the lifters if you can.

Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: dart4forte] #1684017
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Marvel Mystery Oil.




Good stuff;a million uses...

I throw it right in the fuel tank...

Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684018
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it appears my issue was stuck lifters, pushed down with all my weight and the pushrod cup had no give at all.





This is the way they should be. This is the lifter that is likely not your problem. The ones that bleed down too easily are the ones that make the noise.

Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: BSB67] #1684019
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2nd post pics of top of lifters, your not going to be able to push plunger down once there pumped up.

Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: crlush] #1684020
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A new Remflex gasket fixed mine. Couldn't feel air escape at all. Very tiny leak caused tick.

Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: crlush] #1684021
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yeah it's not an exhaust leak, i ran the motor with valve covers off and pressed on the suspect rockers (only 4) with a piece of wood and it quieted up... my camera phone is decent, i'll attach zoomed in images but doesn't appear to have bad pitting.

was thinking the lifters would have drained out after sitting for a year without being run?? i've only tested two suspect lifters then got distracted by work :/ i will be testing the rest soon. what should i be looking for once they are apart?

will try the mystery oil once i've got a few apart for further inspection.

any suggestions on ways to test a bad valve? motor was a warmed up rebuild with 0 miles that had sat for like 3-4 years.

i'll post a couple of the suspect lifter tops that i have pictured, once i get back down to the shop i'll snap some of them all.

thanks you all, really appreciate the input so far... i'll try to get down to the shop today

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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684022
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next lifter

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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684023
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suspect lifter top 1 exhaust

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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684024
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suspect lifter top 1 intake

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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684025
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take the tappet apart and see if it's dirty inside. could be a set of those crappy Stanadyne tappets.

Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: lewtot184] #1684026
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took apart one of the lifters with difficulty, think i'm going to let them drain out a bit before taking apart the rest. the one didn't look too dirty but the oil in it was gummy and seemed thicker than normal?? there is some rust pitting on a few of them as well... i'm not sure what could be going on. i'll check the cam lobes hopefully tomorrow. not really sure what else to check?

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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684027
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lifter internal

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Re: 68 satellite 383 valve tick no matter what rocker adj [Re: maxi333] #1684028
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