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Re: frozen brake drum
[Re: wannadrag]
#1681894
10/04/14 04:57 PM
10/04/14 04:57 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,072
Niles , Ohio
therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,072
Niles , Ohio
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Yeah you need to cut the swedges.Id almost say if you got carried away with the press the hub might be bent.If its bent good luck.It will need replaced.Had a brake mechanic try what you did once.New drums fixed what he did along with the hubs.Rocky
Chrysler Firepower
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Re: frozen brake drum
[Re: moparx]
#1681897
10/05/14 11:07 AM
10/05/14 11:07 AM
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Joined: May 2009
Posts: 409
Lexington NC
twinscrew698
mopar
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mopar
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 409
Lexington NC
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Back in the day shops used this to remove and install!
Click on the PDF file above^
Last edited by twinscrew698; 10/05/14 04:57 PM.
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Re: frozen brake drum
[Re: John_Kunkel]
#1681902
10/05/14 11:32 PM
10/05/14 11:32 PM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,402
north of coder
moparx
"Butt Crack Bob"
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"Butt Crack Bob"
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Posts: 19,402
north of coder
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Had no idea about the swaged studs, but a bigger hammer took care of it!
You can lead a horse to water but.............
with that being said, i have had to replace many hubs over the years that had been bent by not removing the swedge on the studs. mopar was famous for using them. gm & ford, not so much. this was mainly because there was no support under the stud being removed. however, IF you got the stud out with the BFH and didn't somehow bend the hub, then you said bad words when the new studs fit really loose upon installation. why ? because upon removal, the swedgs ground the serration hole oversize on the way out. then it was either tack weld the stud to the hub, or try to find another stud that was slightly[approximately .010] larger on the spline od. than the original application. sometimes it just isn't as simple as it seems.
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Re: frozen brake drum
[Re: moparx]
#1681903
10/06/14 12:20 AM
10/06/14 12:20 AM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 274
Visalia, CA.
poison_ivy
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Visalia, CA.
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I have never come across a swaged brake drum before. Yes the holes are slightly larger now, but is that going to be that much of a problem? I mean when your running down the road, with all lugs tightened, what could go wrong? I'm not trying to be a butt about this,but I've owned and worked on a lot of my own cars over the years, and never encountered such a thing. Why would you seriously need the studs swaged? Just wondering if it's absolutely necessary. I just thought of something, why aren't the rear drums swaged on?
Last edited by poison_ivy; 10/06/14 12:21 AM.
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Re: frozen brake drum
[Re: poison_ivy]
#1681905
10/06/14 04:35 AM
10/06/14 04:35 AM
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Posts: 45
Delaware
GeorgeH
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Delaware
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Quote:
I have never come across a swaged brake drum before. Yes the holes are slightly larger now, but is that going to be that much of a problem? I mean when your running down the road, with all lugs tightened, what could go wrong? I'm not trying to be a butt about this,but I've owned and worked on a lot of my own cars over the years, and never encountered such a thing. Why would you seriously need the studs swaged? Just wondering if it's absolutely necessary. I just thought of something, why aren't the rear drums swaged on?
The problem will rear it's head at 2 am on a dark and lonely night when your trying to remove a flat and the studs are spinning.
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Re: frozen brake drum
[Re: moparx]
#1681906
10/06/14 11:54 AM
10/06/14 11:54 AM
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Posts: 1,212
Minn
SportF
pro stock
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pro stock
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,212
Minn
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Quote:
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Had no idea about the swaged studs, but a bigger hammer took care of it!
You can lead a horse to water but.............
with that being said, i have had to replace many hubs over the years that had been bent by not removing the swedge on the studs. mopar was famous for using them. gm & ford, not so much. this was mainly because there was no support under the stud being removed. however, IF you got the stud out with the BFH and didn't somehow bend the hub, then you said bad words when the new studs fit really loose upon installation. why ? because upon removal, the swedgs ground the serration hole oversize on the way out. then it was either tack weld the stud to the hub, or try to find another stud that was slightly[approximately .010] larger on the spline od. than the original application. sometimes it just isn't as simple as it seems.
I have said this before here,you don't want to weld on those hardened studs (and all studs are grade 8 hardened to my knowledge). It will embrittle the head and it will fall off. In 6 months, or 6 years, it will fall off. In my case, 10 studs tack welded to hub, 7 heads came off 6 months later. Moroso studs.
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Re: frozen brake drum
[Re: therocks]
#1681907
10/06/14 12:22 PM
10/06/14 12:22 PM
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Posts: 5,102
Western Md.
skicker
"The Champ"
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"The Champ"
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,102
Western Md.
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Not to hijack here but I am getting ready to tear my A-100 straight axle apart for the my 65 AWB car. Are the swedged studs something that was typically used and is this cutter something I need to purchase prior to disassembly? thx... I want to stay drum brakes but was reading where the 10 x 2 1/2 drums used for a 65 Coronet spindle are also interchangeable with the A-100, and I don't recall having the swedged studs on the Coronet front drums. 
...FAFO...
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