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Thinking about changing my 26' Pace Shadow trailer from 15" tires to 16". Those of you that run the 16" tires, what size/brand do you run? Would I be better off with a trailer tire (like GY Marathon) or with a LT truck tire? It is my understanding that ST tires (special trailer) are only speed rated for 60-65 mph.
I'm really tired of the ST225/75R15 blow outs. I put on load range E, and air them to 90 psi cold. Still had a failure last week
Thanks,
Brian

Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1677540
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Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1677541
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I'm kinda curious too. I run e rated ST225/75R15 too and just had a blowout after 3 years and less than 6000 miles. Tires look good but?? Maybe 3 years is the norm


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Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: MoParFish] #1677542
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I'm kinda curious too. I run e rated ST225/75R15 too and just had a blowout after 3 years and less than 6000 miles. Tire look good but?? Maybe 3 years is the norm





I'm thinking you are right with the 3 years is norm statement. I have tried various brands and rated tires and it seems like 3 years is the ticket no matter how many miles on them. I actually think the less miles due to the way we use our trailers has an effect on their longevity. I was also thinking of changing to 16" tires but not sure if thats the fix

Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1677543
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Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: max_maniac] #1677544
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I'm kinda curious too. I run e rated ST225/75R15 too and just had a blowout after 3 years and less than 6000 miles. Tire look good but?? Maybe 3 years is the norm





I'm thinking you are right with the 3 years is norm statement. I have tried various brands and rated tires and it seems like 3 years is the ticket no matter how many miles on them. I actually think the less miles due to the way we use our trailers has an effect on their longevity. I was also thinking of changing to 16" tires but not sure if thats the fix




I just returned from a 3200 mile round trip and one of our 4 year old 16" tires gave out 160 miles from home on the return trip. Checked them over before we left and the tread wear was pretty significant and was pretty much thinking that would be the last trip for them..... I was actually pleased that we were going to replace a set of tires because they actually wore out!! But.... the more I think about this, and read, I'm betting the 235/85/16 tires are going to live the same 2 year life span our 15" tires did because the trailer now resides in the desert. My dad had it in SoDak and the climate is alot more tire freindly than the oven I live in. The Load Star tires (china) were originals on this Cargo Mate trailer and were E rated and said 10 ply with a 95psi max psi rating. The set I'm putting on also say 10 ply E rated, but have a max psi of 80...also a china tire. The only other seemingly "better" option out there for the 16" is a "G" rated tire, but you have to have the rims to support them (110psi) and they are not cheap... 250-300 range, and then 150+ per rim. Also most of the wheels that fit this range are 8 lug although I did find some 6 lugs that would fit the bill. I just hate to make a $1500+ investment to find out that the climate in which I live/tow will kill them off in 2-3 years anyways. I've even found that after 4 years I best chit can the E rated tires on my pickup. Last set of Michelin LTX i owned got chit canned at 5 years still had 8/32 tread..... they were dry rotted.

here's an example for the trailer tire:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LT235-85R16-LRG-...K-/110846489825

Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: J_BODY] #1677545
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I made this change on my 28' Pace Shadow GT trailer about 10 years ago and I talked to (the old) Pace before I did it. They recommended that I use 10 ply LT (light truck) tires not the ST trailer tires and they also pointed out that the wheel boxes that the factory installs in the trailers with 15" tires are smaller than the wheel boxes that they install on trailers with 16" tires. So in order to have adequate clearance they told me to lower my axles by 2" by cutting off the existing axle mount and welding a piece of 2"x3"x1/4" tubing between the axle mount and the trailer frame. It was a bit of work to do that but now I run 245-75 R16 LRE tires (3040# max load) and I have good clearance over the tires.

Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: JackZ] #1677546
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Going to 16" tires want get you away from blowouts as we had 2 on our Norwalk trip with a less than 2 year old trailer pulled less than 10k miles...Being a tow-able RV dealer we see the tire issues way too much and have had the best luck out of towmaster tires...After putting said tires on ours we were told we should have put LT tires on instead of regular trailer tires by a well known tire dealer and never look back !!

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Going to 16" tires want get you away from blowouts as we had 2 on our Norwalk trip with a less than 2 year old trailer pulled less than 10k miles...Being a tow-able RV dealer we see the tire issues way too much and have had the best luck out of towmaster tires...After putting said tires on ours we were told we should have put LT tires on instead of regular trailer tires by a well known tire dealer and never look back !!





I have heard the same thing about the LT tires but in some states it is illegal to run them on a trailer??? The law states it must be a trailer tire only on a trailer and most of them only have a speed rating of 60mph so we know that also will kill tires as I often run above that speed. Maybe next time I will try the LT tires and if I get stopped then deal with it at that time - play dumb right

Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: max_maniac] #1677548
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Look at maxxis trailer tires rated one of the best, we found out the hard way and this is what we learned-LOOK AT THE DATE CODE ON THE TIRE-you might have a new trailer but 5 yr old tires, Michelin, goodyear tires weather check REAL bad-they dry out faster-keep the tires at the recommended COLD pressure and keep them there, buy the highest load rating you can afford, thats why we went maxxis, $150 a tire delivered to my door from discount tire.-steve


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Maxxis were the second to last brand that was on my 15" Haulmark. First 10 ply tires I had run. I did notice they didn't try to roll over themselves on tight cornering, but still they didn't last any longer than the others. That is why I stressed to my dad to order his trailer with the 16" wheels and big axles. Unfortunately they only put the 5K axles on so we're stuck with the lighter duty 16" wheels, but like I said. At this point I'm not convinced even those 14ply G rated tires would last out here. I've pretty much given in to the fact that every two years I'm going to be buying trailer tires.

Re: 16" trailer tires [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1677550
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Thinking about changing my 26' Pace Shadow trailer from 15" tires to 16". Those of you that run the 16" tires, what size/brand do you run? Would I be better off with a trailer tire (like GY Marathon) or with a LT truck tire? It is my understanding that ST tires (special trailer) are only speed rated for 60-65 mph.
I'm really tired of the ST225/75R15 blow outs. I put on load range E, and air them to 90 psi cold. Still had a failure last week
Thanks,
Brian




Personally I would get a different trailer before I would try to swap wheels and tires. Because your still have too small of axles after all that work and money.

Personally I like goodyear marathon trailer tires because I have had excellent luck with them. My last 4 15" I bought were still made in the US, not sure about today. Before this trailer I ran 3 set's of 6 16" goodyears on my 49' trailer and ran 125K miles and NEVER had a blow out, never in 8 years of trailing.

As most of you now know now, never buy a enclosed trailer with 15" wheels. There nothing but trouble and allows the dealer to sell you the trailer cheap now. Is it really cheapest in the long run? Heck no!!

I'm thinking folks who live in Az or some place like that, the heat must be really hard on tires during storage.

And the other thing is most folks have there enclosed trailers overloaded and don't even know it and that's why there blowing tires. That's what causes blow outs, over weight and under inflated. Kitchen cabinets don't belong in trailers, there way too heavy and stuff like that.

I have 15" goodyears on my open trailer and got back from a trip out west. another 3900 miles and luckily no tire trouble. We have been to Fla, Niagara Falls, Mich and Wyoming so far this year and no tire trouble. Honestly my trailer tires have over 50K miles on them now and they are 4 years old now.

Lastly always, ALWAYS run your trailer tires 10# over what the sidewall says, always!

Simple trailer doing what it's designed to do, it does not have extra tool boxes and tire racks added onto the trailer that makes extra weight.
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