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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: madscientist]
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09/24/14 10:02 PM
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How do you KNOW what I do? I knew some guys would come on here and tell me how good their GM copy cat stuff is. Innovation went out the window. How many comp guys are running 1.0 B/S ratios (or less). The math also says I'm correct. 532 CID will make the exact same HP as a 632 CID, except the 532 will do it at a higher RPM. And that, my silly friend , will make the 532 QUICKER than the 632, if the guy with the car understands how to make the best of the RPM. And that, my silly little friend, is a whole 'nother can of worms. It's much easier to use a powerglide than fix your junk, nonhooking car. Can't tell you how many engines I have done (especially dirt cars) where we made more HP on the dyno and went slower on the track. All the circle track gurus (and all the kings men) couldn't get the junk cars to hook. When they finally got sick of getting beat, they fixed their junk chassis and started winning. Silly little boys Or how about the 13 second dude who says the starting line is crap, and his junk blew the tires off because the track guys cut the pimp juice and cost him the round, and 15 minutes later a guy runs a high 8 on 275's? Fix your junk. Later dude.
Mad... your wasting your time with him.. he doesnt
race or build anything.. but he sure knows it all
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/24/14 10:19 PM
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How do you KNOW what I do? I knew some guys would come on here and tell me how good their GM copy cat stuff is. Innovation went out the window. How many comp guys are running 1.0 B/S ratios (or less).
The math also says I'm correct. 532 CID will make the exact same HP as a 632 CID, except the 532 will do it at a higher RPM. And that, my silly friend , will make the 532 QUICKER than the 632, if the guy with the car understands how to make the best of the RPM.
And that, my silly little friend, is a whole 'nother can of worms. It's much easier to use a powerglide than fix your junk, nonhooking car. Can't tell you how many engines I have done (especially dirt cars) where we made more HP on the dyno and went slower on the track. All the circle track gurus (and all the kings men) couldn't get the junk cars to hook. When they finally got sick of getting beat, they fixed their junk chassis and started winning. Silly little boys
Or how about the 13 second dude who says the starting line is crap, and his junk blew the tires off because the track guys cut the pimp juice and cost him the round, and 15 minutes later a guy runs a high 8 on 275's? Fix your junk.
Later dude.
Mad... your wasting your time with him.. he doesnt
race or build anything.. but he sure knows it all
Ummmm, don't think he's talking to me....
I guess he is addressing those who run 632 chevys with powerglides........who could be quicker with a 532 if they had a clue to what they were doing....according to him.....
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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09/24/14 10:33 PM
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Awe come on Ted a little spirited debate can be fun. As good ole Abraham Lincoln said
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"
If I'm reading this thread correctly, there's a Dil Doe here among us..
It's just spelled differently.. 
Chris.. 
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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09/24/14 10:36 PM
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Awe come on Ted a little spirited debate can be fun. As good ole Abraham Lincoln said
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"
If I'm reading this thread correctly, there's a Dil Doe here among us..
It's just spelled differently..
Chris..
That would be putting it ... nicely
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
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09/24/14 10:51 PM
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How do you KNOW what I do? I knew some guys would come on here and tell me how good their GM copy cat stuff is. Innovation went out the window. How many comp guys are running 1.0 B/S ratios (or less).
The math also says I'm correct. 532 CID will make the exact same HP as a 632 CID, except the 532 will do it at a higher RPM. And that, my silly friend , will make the 532 QUICKER than the 632, if the guy with the car understands how to make the best of the RPM.
And that, my silly little friend, is a whole 'nother can of worms. It's much easier to use a powerglide than fix your junk, nonhooking car. Can't tell you how many engines I have done (especially dirt cars) where we made more HP on the dyno and went slower on the track. All the circle track gurus (and all the kings men) couldn't get the junk cars to hook. When they finally got sick of getting beat, they fixed their junk chassis and started winning. Silly little boys
Or how about the 13 second dude who says the starting line is crap, and his junk blew the tires off because the track guys cut the pimp juice and cost him the round, and 15 minutes later a guy runs a high 8 on 275's? Fix your junk.
Later dude.
Mad... your wasting your time with him.. he doesnt
race or build anything.. but he sure knows it all
Ummmm, don't think he's talking to me....
I guess he is addressing those who run 632 chevys with powerglides........who could be quicker with a 532 if they had a clue to what they were doing....according to him.....
I'm talking to you, it's just over your head.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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09/24/14 11:25 PM
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You guys are funny......letting 6pacrunner stir you up. 
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
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09/25/14 12:05 AM
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I am NOT building high winding, small cube N/A Comp engines. We build big nitrous motors...........There is not a 532 on the planet that will run with a good 632 on nitrous. Won't happen, I don't car how high you spin it.
Something that works on paper and something that works in the real world are two different things.
ALL big motors are over center, they have to be. How else you going to build an 800" motor within the confines of a normal block
Monte
So who ya gonna spoon with now Chris n mr p-body.....Mad scientist or Monte ?
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
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09/25/14 12:38 AM
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I would like to meet some of the people in person who seem to only go on this and other sites to hide behind their computer and and safely irritate and upset others that are willing to share their knowledge and ideas with us all.
With the free time they seem to have its hard to believe they even have a race car or knowledge about them from experience.
Those of us that actually are builders are more than aware the time invested in our work and how valuable time becomes and we don't waste it solely to talk stupid and irritate..............
I hope fools like this will not chase away people like monte who share their valuable hard learned knowledge with us mopar few..........
It would be great to see a photo of the agitators in case I happen about them in public just to see if their mouth still operates face to face.
I am thinking these type of people only speak up at a safe distance......
Thanks to all that contribute and respect others that do.
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: madscientist]
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09/25/14 12:54 AM
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I am NOT building high winding, small cube N/A Comp engines. We build big nitrous motors...........There is not a 532 on the planet that will run with a good 632 on nitrous. Won't happen, I don't car how high you spin it.
Something that works on paper and something that works in the real world are two different things.
ALL big motors are over center, they have to be. How else you going to build an 800" motor within the confines of a normal block
Monte
So who ya gonna spoon with now Chris n mr p-body.....Mad scientist or Monte ?
Pay attention goofball. Monte is talking about a nitrous engine. I said N/A. Two different things. But you are too silly to get it. And, as Monte said, how are you going to get an over center (as he calls it) to run without a power adder.
So neither Monte or myself is wrong.
Bad day to be you.
I'm glad you guys are quoting this IDIOT ... otherwise
I wouldnt know what he is saying
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: Duner]
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09/25/14 12:59 AM
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Seems nobody wants to quit huh...It would be a shame to lock this thread just because we can't act like adults. Next person who feels they need to make a backhanded comment about someone else in this thread is taking a break. That means no "I have to get the last word in" comments. The debate can continue without being personal.
5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
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09/25/14 01:02 AM
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Seems nobody wants to quit huh...It would be a shame to lock this thread just because we can't act like adults. Next person who feels they need to make a backhanded comment about someone else in this thread is taking a break. That means no "I have to get the last word in" comments. The debate can continue without being personal.
My error in that case... carry on with the discussion
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: madscientist]
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09/25/14 01:33 AM
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Monte is talking about a nitrous engine. I said N/A. Two different things. But you are too silly to get it. And, as Monte said, how are you going to get an over center (as he calls it) to run without a power adder.
So neither Monte or myself is wrong.
You have NEVER said N/A in ANY of your posts, but ok...nice save....somebody should let Sonny Leonard and his customers know that they don't need all those 700, 800, 900, 1000 ci N/A "overcenter" engines when they could be going faster with less stroke, IF they know how to get down the track......
And Tom should take you up on that "simple" 1250-1275hp 523" N/A Mopar engine you proposed.....be neat to see that. Thats about 2.4hp/ci.....pretty impressive, especially for only 8800 rpm
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
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09/25/14 02:13 AM
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Monte is talking about a nitrous engine. I said N/A. Two different things. But you are too silly to get it. And, as Monte said, how are you going to get an over center (as he calls it) to run without a power adder.
So neither Monte or myself is wrong.
You have NEVER said N/A in ANY of your posts, but ok...nice save....somebody should let Sonny Leonard and his customers know that they don't need all those 700, 800, 900, 1000 ci N/A "overcenter" engines when they could be going faster with less stroke, IF they know how to get down the track......
And Tom should take you up on that "simple" 1250-1275hp 523" N/A Mopar engine you proposed.....be neat to see that. Thats about 2.4hp/ci.....pretty impressive, especially for only 8800 rpm
Really? Did I say power adders? Do I need to spell it all out?
You should copy Larry Larsen. He uses twin turbos. That MUST be the answer to everything right? Class rules Maybe? Figure it out fool. Ridiculous. You would argue with a fire hydrant. And then lie and say you wouldn't.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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09/25/14 04:53 AM
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I would love to respond to this, but I am at a loss where to even start....I think I better wait a day or two...
Being as he's one good engine builder, and a good guy too.. I have to say..
Todd's the real genius here.. 
Chris..
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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09/25/14 11:31 AM
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I was enjoying this thread until Michael Jackson stole my popcorn, I'm gonna pop him in the head 
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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy
[Re: slammedR/T]
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09/25/14 12:39 PM
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It would be an interesting read if we could have just the real engine builders only have a so to speak engine build off against each other. They get to choose their engine of choice be it Mopar,ford or chevy. No nos, blowers,superchargers or prochargers all motor!  And if you name is not on the list at the start you can not post or join in no matter how good you are once it is started! PS not that I don't find this post amusing as it is,but would not mind learning a few things.
"To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man"
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