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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1673897
09/25/14 12:57 PM
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there is still some advances in mopar technology

i know it is supercharged but 7.07sec/200+mph is still impressive

http://www.nmcadigital.com/2013/09/19/br...r-for-rob-goss/

i'm not sure but a N/A version could be produced that would still be pretty damn potent.

maybe too many plug wires to figure out?

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1673898
09/25/14 01:04 PM
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It would be an interesting read if we could have just the real engine builders only have a so to speak engine build off against each other.

They get to choose their engine of choice be it Mopar,ford or chevy.
No nos, blowers,superchargers or prochargers all motor!
And if you name is not on the list at the start you can not post or join in no matter how good you are once it is started!

PS not that I don't find this post amusing as it is,but would not mind learning a few things.






Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1673899
09/25/14 02:04 PM
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It would be an interesting read if we could have just the real engine builders only have a so to speak engine build off against each other.

They get to choose their engine of choice be it Mopar,ford or chevy.
No nos, blowers,superchargers or prochargers all motor!
And if you name is not on the list at the start you can not post or join in no matter how good you are once it is started!

PS not that I don't find this post amusing as it is,but would not mind learning a few things.






2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads
1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel.
motor; 10.258 @ 132.78
200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69
racemagnum
Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1673900
09/25/14 04:46 PM
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It would be an interesting read if we could have just the real engine builders only have a so to speak engine build off against each other.

They get to choose their engine of choice be it Mopar,ford or chevy.
No nos, blowers,superchargers or prochargers all motor!
And if you name is not on the list at the start you can not post or join in no matter how good you are once it is started!

PS not that I don't find this post amusing as it is,but would not mind learning a few things.




PS,PS It would be nice if each included a build specs sheet showing all clearances and tolerances,like you would get if you brought or had an engine built!


"To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"
Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1673901
09/25/14 05:32 PM
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It would be an interesting read if we could have just the real engine builders only have a so to speak engine build off against each other.

They get to choose their engine of choice be it Mopar,ford or chevy.
No nos, blowers,superchargers or prochargers all motor!
And if you name is not on the list at the start you can not post or join in no matter how good you are once it is started!

PS not that I don't find this post amusing as it is,but would not mind learning a few things.




PS,PS It would be nice if each included a build specs sheet showing all clearances and tolerances,like you would get if you brought or had an engine built!





Yaaaaa right. And if you rub this magic tea pot I will give you three more wishes. Some build secretes are SECRETE.


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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: pittsburghracer] #1673902
09/25/14 06:46 PM
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Not asking for any Top Secrete type of builds,the specs will show who is for real or not.
It might even be fun for some of the Top Engine Builders,it will give them a chance to go head-head with each other.Be some what like if all of us racers could get together at the same time and do a little Bracket Racing (the dial in equals the playing field)and we would all get to see who was best on that given day.


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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1673903
09/25/14 10:24 PM
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Not asking for any Top Secrete type of builds,the specs will show who is for real or not.
It might even be fun for some of the Top Engine Builders,it will give them a chance to go head-head with each other.Be some what like if all of us racers could get together at the same time and do a little Bracket Racing (the dial in equals the playing field)and we would all get to see who was best on that given day.




Dude, a Moparts race event would be bad ass actually


2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads
1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel.
motor; 10.258 @ 132.78
200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69
racemagnum
Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: 74yellowduster] #1673904
09/26/14 12:23 AM
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there is still some advances in mopar technology

i know it is supercharged but 7.07sec/200+mph is still impressive

http://www.nmcadigital.com/2013/09/19/br...r-for-rob-goss/

i'm not sure but a N/A version could be produced that would still be pretty damn potent.

maybe too many plug wires to figure out?




Here's the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-b8webrRJc

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: moparmanjames] #1673905
09/26/14 12:56 AM
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Wow....1.28 60 ft., 4.65 in the eighth. That should be in the 6.80's with that power, or faster.

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: camastomcat] #1673906
09/26/14 02:55 AM
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wish folks would get their old video cameras out of the closet....

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: camastomcat] #1673907
09/26/14 12:15 PM
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Wow....1.28 60 ft., 4.65 in the eighth. That should be in the 6.80's with that power, or faster.




He went a 4.59 @159mph with a 1.15 sixty yesterday at No Mercy V at SGMP in Valdosta,Ga.

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: Gary Robbins] #1673908
09/26/14 12:19 PM
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Wow....1.28 60 ft., 4.65 in the eighth. That should be in the 6.80's with that power, or faster.




He went a 4.59 @159mph with a 1.15 sixty yesterday at No Mercy V at SGMP in Valdosta,Ga.




Thats a big step in both the 60' and the 1/8

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1673909
09/26/14 11:12 PM
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I would love to respond to this, but I am at a loss where to even start....I think I better wait a day or two...






Being as he's one good engine builder, and a good guy too.. I have to say..

Todd's the real genius here..


And I have continued, and decided TO continue to maintain radio silence during this futile operation..... ...." run silent....run deep"....but the popcorn tastes great.



Chris..




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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1673910
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I hope, this is the end of this thread.

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1673911
09/27/14 02:26 AM
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I would love to respond to this, but I am at a loss where to even start....I think I better wait a day or two...






Being as he's one good engine builder, and a good guy too.. I have to say..

Todd's the real genius here..


And I have continued, and decided TO continue to maintain radio silence during this futile operation..... ...." run silent....run deep"....but the popcorn tastes great.



Chris..







Good plan.......

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: Eric] #1673912
09/29/14 04:12 AM
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3k dollar blocks just aren't feasible. I work at a shop where all we see are Brodix sbc and Dart sbf aluminum blocks. At about 3500-4000 a piece. And that's a starting point. This is for a "popular" engine. Us mopar guys tend to be a bit of outcasts. Expecting a quality, aluminum mopar block for anything approaching what the "popular" platforms cost just isn't really realistic. I wish it was, but it just isn't.

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: dodgeboy11] #1673913
09/29/14 07:21 AM
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I was paging through the monthly NMCA paper and Scoggins-Dickey's add had a bunch of different LS-1/7/X blocks for sale. Some were under $1K, FOR AN ALUMINUM BLOCK. So unless Chevy is just dumping, it can be done. S/F....Ken M

Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1673914
09/29/14 09:40 AM
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I am NOT building high winding, small cube N/A Comp engines. We build big nitrous motors...........There is not a 532 on the planet that will run with a good 632 on nitrous. Won't happen, I don't car how high you spin it.

Something that works on paper and something that works in the real world are two different things.

ALL big motors are over center, they have to be. How else you going to build an 800" motor within the confines of a normal block

Monte




So who ya gonna spoon with now Chris n mr p-body.....Mad scientist or Monte ?




Pay attention goofball. Monte is talking about a nitrous engine. I said N/A. Two different things. But you are too silly to get it. And, as Monte said, how are you going to get an over center (as he calls it) to run without a power adder.

So neither Monte or myself is wrong.

Bad day to be you.




I'm glad you guys are quoting this IDIOT ... otherwise
I wouldnt know what he is saying




Wby does this guy have to come from Minnesota? This is embarrassing


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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: pittsburghracer] #1673915
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After reading this post I can honestly thank God that I am rod, crank, bore, and stroke ratio stupid but smart enough to put my own crap together and go out and race every weekend. No wonder half of you guys never get a project to the track.




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Re: Engine builders, you have my sympathy [Re: gregsdart] #1673916
09/29/14 11:44 AM
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This forum used to be a fun, informative place to share information. Now if you give hard earned information out for free a keyboard cowboy will argue with you. What happened?
Keith

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