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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
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#1661450
12/24/14 03:15 AM
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You can run the calipers toward the front only if you swap the transfer line and bleeder valve locations.
Otherwise, the staggered piston diameters will cause the brake pads to wear at an angle.
Ok, good to know.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: feets]
#1661453
12/28/14 05:10 AM
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
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12/28/14 12:52 PM
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The pics were intended to spur thoughts.
The smaller duct blows on the spindle. That pushes the air from the center of the rotor outwards.
Is that something you can do with your setup?
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
- Stu Harmon
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
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12/28/14 06:01 PM
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The pics were intended to spur thoughts.
The smaller duct blows on the spindle. That pushes the air from the center of the rotor outwards.
Is that something you can do with your setup?
I just don't have a lot of room to snake a 3" flex duct between the frame and shock THEN make the turn to a rear duct.
AND I just like the look of a front caliper on the rear. I know that's just esthetics, but It's a lot of money for the big brakes, rims, and suspension setup. So yes, I want it to look good.
I think being compatible with aftermarket big brake kits that are front or rear mounted is reasonable. Most are intended for rear mounting. Especially when many other competing company's setups allow for this.
You go to the Hotchkis website and see this great testimonial for a "before and after" suspension build. That build-up was on the cover of Mopar Muscle magazine.
But if you have an A-body you can't build it that way...
http://www.hotchkis.net/press_release.html?ID=11
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: autoxcuda]
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12/28/14 07:16 PM
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Autoxcuda, who makes that duct you pictured?
1966 Dart GT
...down to only 1 mopar for the first time in 15 years!
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
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12/28/14 10:19 PM
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Can you still fit a smaller duct into the center of the rotor?
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
- Stu Harmon
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
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12/29/14 01:28 AM
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RMS A-arms. I don't have any complaints other than the ball joint boots don't have a lip to snap onto, but these are not the ball joints that come in Bill's arms either.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: 72Swinger]
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12/29/14 03:19 AM
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RMS A-arms. I don't have any complaints other than the ball joint boots don't have a lip to snap onto, but these are not the ball joints that come in Bill's arms either.
So those are rear mount big brake and the A-arms just have a simple curve into the heims.
...geez rub it in why don't you. 
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
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12/29/14 03:57 AM
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Yeah salt to a wound, my bad, wont happen again.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: 72Swinger]
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12/29/14 04:07 AM
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Yeah salt to a wound, my bad, wont happen again.
no, no...more info the better. 
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: autoxcuda]
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12/29/14 04:15 AM
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Yeah salt to a wound, my bad, wont happen again.
no, no...more info the better.
My friend and I were also discussing this while working on my Dart. He's got the RMS UCA's, but he still didn't think they'd clear in his '71 Demon. But the bend in the RMS's arm doesn't seem nearly as drastic as the bend in the Hotchkis arm.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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12/29/14 04:19 AM
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Yeah salt to a wound, my bad, wont happen again.
no, no...more info the better.
My friend and I were also discussing this while working on my Dart. He's got the RMS UCA's, but he still didn't think they'd clear in his '71 Demon. But the bend in the RMS's arm doesn't seem nearly as drastic as the bend in the Hotchkis arm.
72swinger's caliper seems mounted even higher. But maybe different room in the back of it?
72swinger, what kit is that from? I thought that was a DrDiff kit also?
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
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12/29/14 04:48 AM
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It is one of the last 14" kits he made before ditching them. His new calipers are pretty close knockoffs to the Viper caliper though. I never checked how close these got to the control arm but I can go to the steering stops on my 72 lower control arms.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: 72Swinger]
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12/29/14 04:53 AM
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It is one of the last 14" kits he made before ditching them. His new calipers are pretty close knockoffs to the Viper caliper though. I never checked how close these got to the control arm but I can go to the steering stops on my 72 lower control arms.
You may have 14" rotors, but I think my calipers are physically much larger than yours.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: DoctorDiff]
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12/30/14 04:41 AM
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The new calipers are 2" longer than the Viper version. I lowered the mount 1" so the top of the caliper will clear the UCA by the same amount.
Could you lower it any further and still mount them in the rear? (steering arm)
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