Harmonic balancer bolt coming loose
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08/13/14 11:40 AM
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We freshened up my buddy's 528 Hemi. It had 170 passes on it. 20 since he had bought it. All we did was replace the rings and bearings and removed the roller cam and put in a flat tappet. We installed the ATI balancer with the proper tool, used an ARP bolt and torqued the balancer to the 135 ft lb stock spec. After one pass the harmonic balancer bolt was not tight, maybe had 30 ft lbs on it. We retorqued it made another pass and some idling around. Checked it again and it had around 30 ft lbs on it. Any ideas? Thank you.
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Re: Harmonic balancer bolt coming loose
[Re: rickseeman]
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08/13/14 12:00 PM
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Are you SURE the balancer is bottomed out on the crank.. in a lot of cases 135# wont move the balancer if your trying to pull it on... I cant say why its coming loose.. I've never had that issue on my SB stuff
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Re: Harmonic balancer bolt coming loose
[Re: Airwoofer]
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08/13/14 01:34 PM
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The new ATI balancer we installed at the beginning of this year would not go on all the way unless it was honed out. On some aftermarket cranks the tolerances are a little on the high side making the fit too tight.
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Re: Harmonic balancer bolt coming loose
[Re: Dads426]
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08/13/14 01:58 PM
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The new ATI balancer we installed at the beginning of this year would not go on all the way unless it was honed out. On some aftermarket cranks the tolerances are a little on the high side making the fit too tight.
been there done that. I learned the hard way. I cracked the hub and had to buy another one. honed the new one as per there instructions. I used blue Loctite on my arp crank bolt. i hope it stays tight.im hoping to fire it up here soon.
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Re: Harmonic balancer bolt coming loose
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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08/13/14 02:56 PM
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Make sure the damper is fully seated with the tool, then run the bolt down to spec. Then a short burst with the impact. If you don't do the impact, you can't roll the engine over by hand.
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Re: Harmonic balancer bolt coming loose
[Re: Thumperdart]
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08/13/14 10:50 PM
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Clean the threads and put it on with red loctite ???
I`ve always impacted em on probably close to 110-120 ft. lbs. w/red loctite and they never have come loose.........
Me too !
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Re: Harmonic balancer bolt coming loose
[Re: rickseeman]
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08/14/14 02:50 PM
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A balancer bolt should not need Loctite to stay tight. The dampner, if done correctly is a press fit, on a straight shaft. There shouldnt be much load trying to " push" it off the crankshaft.Although belts and drive accessories could contribute, especially if out of balance) The press fit holds the dampner on, not the bolt. The bolt is a safety precaution more than anything. Its a massive 3/4" bolt, it takes a lot to hurt one, and a lot to torque one. The only things that SHOULD loosen a dampner bolt by itself are: A bad dampner, or a bad balance job ( or components) A dampner that is not fitted properly or pressed on all the way. Sometimes the hard finish of the ARP type bolts need a burnishing with a wire wheel etc as they tend to be slick as finished, or covered in protetcive oils. Make sure to spray some brake clean etc in the damper hole fo the crank. to make it grease free and dry. My
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