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B1 COMBOS #1649555
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I would like to hear of some of your B1 combos as far as comp, cam ,rpms

did you use a stock rb block ,what ci

what headers did you use, size pipes and collecters ,made you own



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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Ari440] #1649556
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Mine was a stock block making around 850 hp or so. 12.5-1 2 1/8th headers untill I could make a bigger set. 797/816 lift turning 8k with aluminum rods and a girdle.

Now I am doing an aluminum block 15-1 comp advanced to 112 c/l 114 lobe sep. instead of 114 with 2 3/8th chassis headers 4.5 x 4.5 engine. I will be done with it in about a month from now. I did some chassis changes , and also need new slicks. Last time out, with the stock block engine, I went a 1.56 60' 6.17 1/8 at 121 mph. that was an intersting run. I plan on shifting somewhere around 7600 or less. no dyno time just tuning it by track times is all.

Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Ari440] #1649557
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I would like to hear of some of your B1 combos as far as comp, cam ,rpms

did you use a stock rb block ,what ci

what headers did you use, size pipes and collecters ,made you own



thanks


529 inch KB block,B-1 heads(of course) 1471 blower,carbon injector,crane roller( big) bruno drive and a 3sp lenco.4.29 gear zoomies, and 13 1/2 " MT tires/ shifting at 84 to 8,600 = .901 60ft,3.78 1/8th and 5.92 in the 1/4 engine built by scott koffel

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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: top comp] #1649558
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557 Indy Maxx block,4.500 bore, 4.375 stroke, 14.8 comp,7.100 rods, custom cam 281-292 @ .050, .860-.812 lift, 112 lobe sep, single 1250 Dom with billet metering plates. Made 978 on an accurate dyno, went 8.84 @ 153 in a 3200# car on 10.5x29.5 with ladder bars. I'm sure it still had more in it.

Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Ari440] #1649559
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B1 originals, B1 Intake, Venolia 4.5 pistons, Callies 4.77 Crank, 6.8" H beam Rods, Koleno KP440 Block, 1270cfm AED Max Pro Dominator, Crane Mec Roller 320/328deg 114 disp angle int .79 ex .76 CR10.69
TTI 2.0/ 2 1/8 /3.5 Headers

dynoed 942@6100 and 886@5100 at Koffels Place with 1050 Dominator

Full streetcar not on a strip yet, but first run in 2 weeks

Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: LUMI] #1649560
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?


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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Thumperdart] #1649561
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I don't know what cam is in the KOS 499 but that thing will rev - and rev right now! .900 lift. I think the heads are B1MC not PSO judging from what Monte said a PSO head looks like.

Like MoparAl's, the headers are also interesting.

Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Thumperdart] #1649562
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?




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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Al_Alguire] #1649563
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I freed my mind years ago on mushrooms petting Mojave rattlesnakes............So, it must have something to do with the broad rpm range yes?


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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Thumperdart] #1649564
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?



I looked at four different grinds recommended for my combo with 2 at 110 LSA and 2 at 112 LSA. The lobe separation got wider to accommodate the longer exhaust durations of the cams with the 112 LSA. On all four cams the intake closing point was close to the same, the overlap was close to the same with the exhaust closing and intake opening being close to the same. The difference was the exhaust opening point. The more exhaust duration, the wider the LSA to keep three out of four of the valve events in about the same spot.


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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: gregsdart] #1649565
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I pick up a set of heads P4349600

set of valvecovers

black rockerarms with shafts and mounting blocks but they are water damaged and rusted

no valves springs retainers

cast tunnelram two 1050 early style the linkage say,s S-M SOX & MARTIN


1969 440 short block need to take it apart

how do I know if there B1 pistons

rollarcam don't know specs yet no lifters

aftermarket rods

don't know if its a stroked motor

milidon duel oillines on a dragster oilpan

tach drive distributer and B&M flex plate

8 inch ATI converter with 727 tannie


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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Ari440] #1649566
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B1 pistons will have DEEP notches. Also the notches are centered on the bore. You can also measure the dia. of the valve pockets Should be 2.400 and 1.900 or close to it. The best way to check is mock it up.

Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Ari440] #1649567
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I pick up a set of heads P434960
^^^Is this a B1 casting #?^^^

Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: racerx] #1649568
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At one time B1s sold thru Mopar Performance and had a Mopar PN. I imagine that's the old PN.

Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: fbs63] #1649569
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I would check out the list #s on the carbs. If they say S&M they are likely individual runner carbs. Calibrated very differently than a plenum style carb.

Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: gregsdart] #1649570
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?



I looked at four different grinds recommended for my combo with 2 at 110 LSA and 2 at 112 LSA. The lobe separation got wider to accommodate the longer exhaust durations of the cams with the 112 LSA. On all four cams the intake closing point was close to the same, the overlap was close to the same with the exhaust closing and intake opening being close to the same. The difference was the exhaust opening point. The more exhaust duration, the wider the LSA to keep three out of four of the valve events in about the same spot.





Thankxxx Greg...............learn sumptin everyday.


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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Thumperdart] #1649571
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605 world block b1 heads little porting to them. Comp cam speced by Chuck at best machine for my old 512. Could probably use a different cam. Something like i think .813 lift 308 duration and installed at 112. Prosystems 1050. And way small 2" fenderwell headers. Haven't found a set of headers yet. dynoed at 965 hp and I believe 845 tq.

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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Al_Alguire] #1649572
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?




Cause it works...Free your mind


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what was your combo in the valiant AL


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Re: B1 COMBOS [Re: Ari440] #1649573
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