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B1 COMBOS
Posted By: Ari440
B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 05:59 AM
I would like to hear of some of your B1 combos as far as comp, cam ,rpms
did you use a stock rb block ,what ci
what headers did you use, size pipes and collecters ,made you own
thanks
Posted By: Mopar-Al
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 07:10 AM
Mine was a stock block making around 850 hp or so. 12.5-1 2 1/8th headers untill I could make a bigger set. 797/816 lift turning 8k with aluminum rods and a girdle.
Now I am doing an aluminum block 15-1 comp advanced to 112 c/l 114 lobe sep. instead of 114 with 2 3/8th chassis headers 4.5 x 4.5 engine. I will be done with it in about a month from now. I did some chassis changes , and also need new slicks. Last time out, with the stock block engine, I went a 1.56 60' 6.17 1/8 at 121 mph. that was an intersting run. I plan on shifting somewhere around 7600 or less. no dyno time just tuning it by track times is all.
Posted By: top comp
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 02:25 PM
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I would like to hear of some of your B1 combos as far as comp, cam ,rpms
did you use a stock rb block ,what ci
what headers did you use, size pipes and collecters ,made you own
thanks
529 inch KB block,B-1 heads(of course) 1471 blower,carbon injector,crane roller( big) bruno drive and a 3sp lenco.4.29 gear zoomies, and 13 1/2 " MT tires/ shifting at 84 to 8,600 = .901 60ft,3.78 1/8th and 5.92 in the 1/4 engine built by scott koffel
Posted By: fbs63
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 04:04 PM
557 Indy Maxx block,4.500 bore, 4.375 stroke, 14.8 comp,7.100 rods, custom cam 281-292 @ .050, .860-.812 lift, 112 lobe sep, single 1250 Dom with billet metering plates. Made 978 on an accurate dyno, went 8.84 @ 153 in a 3200# car on 10.5x29.5 with ladder bars. I'm sure it still had more in it.
Posted By: LUMI
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 05:34 PM
B1 originals, B1 Intake, Venolia 4.5 pistons, Callies 4.77 Crank, 6.8" H beam Rods, Koleno KP440 Block, 1270cfm AED Max Pro Dominator, Crane Mec Roller 320/328deg 114 disp angle int .79 ex .76 CR10.69
TTI 2.0/ 2 1/8 /3.5 Headers
dynoed
942@6100 and
886@5100 at Koffels Place with 1050 Dominator
Full streetcar not on a strip yet, but first run in 2 weeks
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 05:54 PM
Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?
Posted By: Airwoofer
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 06:25 PM
I don't know what cam is in the KOS 499 but that thing will rev - and rev right now! .900 lift. I think the heads are B1MC not PSO judging from what Monte said a PSO head looks like.
Like MoparAl's, the headers are also interesting.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 07:52 PM
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?
Cause it works...Free your mind
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 07:54 PM
I freed my mind years ago on mushrooms petting Mojave rattlesnakes............So, it must have something to do with the broad rpm range yes?
Posted By: gregsdart
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/22/14 10:46 PM
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?
I looked at four different grinds recommended for my combo with 2 at 110 LSA and 2 at 112 LSA. The lobe separation got wider to accommodate the longer exhaust durations of the cams with the 112 LSA. On all four cams the intake closing point was close to the same, the overlap was close to the same with the exhaust closing and intake opening being close to the same. The difference was the exhaust opening point. The more exhaust duration, the wider the LSA to keep three out of four of the valve events in about the same spot.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/23/14 02:44 AM
I pick up a set of heads P4349600
set of valvecovers
black rockerarms with shafts and mounting blocks but they are water damaged and rusted
no valves springs retainers
cast tunnelram two 1050 early style the linkage say,s S-M SOX & MARTIN
1969 440 short block need to take it apart
how do I know if there B1 pistons
rollarcam don't know specs yet no lifters
aftermarket rods
don't know if its a stroked motor
milidon duel oillines on a dragster oilpan
tach drive distributer and B&M flex plate
8 inch ATI converter with 727 tannie
Posted By: fbs63
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/23/14 05:31 AM
B1 pistons will have DEEP notches. Also the notches are centered on the bore. You can also measure the dia. of the valve pockets Should be 2.400 and 1.900 or close to it. The best way to check is mock it up.
Posted By: racerx
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/23/14 12:17 PM
I pick up a set of heads P434960
^^^Is this a B1 casting #?^^^
Posted By: fbs63
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/23/14 03:09 PM
At one time B1s sold thru Mopar Performance and had a Mopar PN. I imagine that's the old PN.
Posted By: fbs63
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/23/14 03:13 PM
I would check out the list #s on the carbs. If they say S&M they are likely individual runner carbs. Calibrated very differently than a plenum style carb.
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/23/14 03:58 PM
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?
I looked at four different grinds recommended for my combo with 2 at 110 LSA and 2 at 112 LSA. The lobe separation got wider to accommodate the longer exhaust durations of the cams with the 112 LSA. On all four cams the intake closing point was close to the same, the overlap was close to the same with the exhaust closing and intake opening being close to the same. The difference was the exhaust opening point. The more exhaust duration, the wider the LSA to keep three out of four of the valve events in about the same spot.
Thankxxx Greg...............learn sumptin everyday.
Posted By: psycomopar
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/25/14 03:39 AM
605 world block b1 heads little porting to them. Comp cam speced by Chuck at best machine for my old 512. Could probably use a different cam. Something like i think .813 lift 308 duration and installed at 112. Prosystems 1050. And way small 2" fenderwell headers. Haven't found a set of headers yet. dynoed at 965 hp and I believe 845 tq.
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/26/14 03:13 AM
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Just curious but what`s w/all of these wide lsa`s...........is it to take advantage of the upper rpm capabilities?
Cause it works...Free your mind
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what was your combo in the valiant AL
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/27/14 01:28 AM
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/27/14 01:29 AM
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 07/29/14 05:00 AM
there is a guy that owns a silver 68-69 barracuda ,he had a B1 manifold that was redesigned
any pics
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 08/10/14 01:37 PM
who do you recommend for B1 pistons
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 08/10/14 01:46 PM
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605 world block b1 heads little porting to them. Comp cam speced by Chuck at best machine for my old 512. Could probably use a different cam. Something like i think .813 lift 308 duration and installed at 112. Prosystems 1050. And way small 2" fenderwell headers. Haven't found a set of headers yet. dynoed at 965 hp and I believe 845 tq.
do you have any p[cs ?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: B1 COMBOS - 08/10/14 02:12 PM
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who do you recommend for B1 pistons
I have a new set of CP B1 m/c pistons for a 4.440 bore
for sale.. PM me if your interested
Posted By: supercomp
Re: B1 COMBOS - 08/10/14 02:41 PM
To bad they aren't 4.500.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: B1 COMBOS - 08/10/14 06:24 PM
I would not use anyone but CP for pistons, for anything! They have the chamber profile for my MC's so we get exactly what we want.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: B1 COMBOS - 08/10/14 07:31 PM
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I would not use anyone but CP for pistons, for anything! They have the chamber profile for my MC's so we get exactly what we want.
Yeah when I had my W-9 pistons made I had to send them
a head to profile since they didnt have a W-9 on file..
they make some nice stuff
EDIT
they paid the shipping for the head both ways
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 09/25/14 05:43 AM
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: B1 COMBOS - 09/25/14 06:03 AM
4.500 X 4.500 572 World aluminum block, B1/MC heads, 1870#'s with driver, mid 800 lift cam, 112 lobe sep., 16-1 compression, vacuum pump. No dyno numbers, went 7.26 at 3100 ft corrected with little tuning and the wrong gear. Hope this helps.
Posted By: mac56
Re: B1 COMBOS - 09/25/14 01:13 PM
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I pick up a set of heads P4349600
set of valvecovers
black rockerarms with shafts and mounting blocks but they are water damaged and rusted
no valves springs retainers
cast tunnelram two 1050 early style the linkage say,s S-M SOX & MARTIN
1969 440 short block need to take it apart
how do I know if there B1 pistons
rollarcam don't know specs yet no lifters
aftermarket rods
don't know if its a stroked motor
milidon duel oillines on a dragster oilpan
tach drive distributer and B&M flex plate
8 inch ATI converter with 727 tannie
Did you ever get the engine apart to find out exactly what it was?
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 09/26/14 01:13 AM
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I pick up a set of heads P4349600
set of valvecovers
black rockerarms with shafts and mounting blocks but they are water damaged and rusted
no valves springs retainers
cast tunnelram two 1050 early style the linkage say,s S-M SOX & MARTIN
1969 440 short block need to take it apart
how do I know if there B1 pistons
rollarcam don't know specs yet no lifters
aftermarket rods
don't know if its a stroked motor
milidon duel oillines on a dragster oilpan
tach drive distributer and B&M flex plate
8 inch ATI converter with 727 tannie
Did you ever get the engine apart to find out exactly what it was?
yes
its a 446 ci
cylinders are rusted up from sitting
block could go to a 4.375 bore ,its just a core
stock crank crower rods
don't know whos pistons
milidon duel oiling system with dragster oilpan
the short block will be up for sale
cant use these parts , but it will fund money to get the heads fixed and parts to compete them
lunati roller cam its rusted /damaged
Posted By: mac56
Re: B1 COMBOS - 09/26/14 01:22 AM
That is to bad. Good luck.
Posted By: Mopar-Al
Re: B1 COMBOS - 09/26/14 01:33 AM
I got my B1 572 running now, but hadn't taken it to the track yet. I still am having another set of headers made for it. I put my 2 1/8th chassis headers back on to start it up. Are you going to get an aftermarket block? What bore?
Posted By: Ari440
Re: B1 COMBOS - 09/26/14 01:42 AM
hi AL
its going in my stock rb 511 ci motor
getting pistons done for this combo
im collecting parts, a member here is helping me out
don't have the funds for and aftermarket block now
need to work with what I have