Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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I build a lot of 3600lb 8 second blow thru street cars. Pump gas on the street c-16 at the track. You can't go wrong with a blow thru f-2. Don't put to much stroke in it, its not a turbo.
Just curious, why run c-16 at the track? I was informed that there are plenty that run 1,200 hp turbo/supercharged apps with 10.5:1 compression on pump gas only.
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Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
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Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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I build a lot of 3600lb 8 second blow thru street cars. Pump gas on the street c-16 at the track. You can't go wrong with a blow thru f-2. Don't put to much stroke in it, its not a turbo.
Just curious, why run c-16 at the track? I was informed that there are plenty that run 1,200 hp turbo/supercharged apps with 10.5:1 compression on pump gas only.
non intercooled. If you want to add the weight and the plumbing for a A/A or A/W intercooler then yes.
Awesome! I didn't realize you could make that much power at that compression ratio with just an intercooler on pump gas with no meth, etc.
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Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
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07/30/14 08:17 PM
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Thank you for your input and help. I have been leaning towards my 583 B1MC motor and changing pistons and cam and adding a F2 gear drive or side slinger with no inter cooler.
I agree on your choice on the Pro charger, which fuel do you wan to use on the street? If E85 is doable then forget the intercooler, if gasoline I would run a water to air intercoller and use ice in it as needed As far as street motor on gasoline I have built several hemi with roots type superchargers, 10:71 with both EFI and dual dominator carbs, 1300 HP was reach with a lot of work out of a 499 C.I. motor on race gas with Motech EFI The larger B1-MC motor with the right compression ratio should make as much or real close to the same HP per C.I. as the Hemiroids did, intercooling can help a bunch when it comes to using and compressing air for your motor IHTHs
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
[Re: BobR]
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I'm partial to P/charger.
Man that thing is sweet......and really fast.
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Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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07/31/14 12:47 PM
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I have both combos, I ran a f-2 cog side slinger for the last 5 years making 24lbs no issues. now I have the gear driven chris alston drive.
How bad was it at throwing belts, if at all? I will be streeting this as well as trackin. Looks like it is a much cleaner install with the belt and an air cleaner is also easire to put on. This ain't gonna be no X275 car with a round hole in the front.
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Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
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07/31/14 04:31 PM
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I'm partial to P/charger.
Man that thing is sweet......and really fast.
Doug built the car in his garage. Crazy knowledge and skills.
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Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
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07/31/14 05:00 PM
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the problems with the supercharger store gear drives is not the quality or reliability its the fact that you need special gears for them and they do not make all of the accessory drives.
BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154
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Re: How to make 1200-1300 streetable HP?
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the problems with the supercharger store gear drives is not the quality or reliability its the fact that you need special gears for them and they do not make all of the accessory drives.
Chris Alston also makes a nice unit that is actually very similar to the SS unit. Don't know how his parts support is. So far we have been able to get everything we needed.
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