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How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys #1645897 07/13/14 11:54 AM 07/13/14 11:54 AM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend John Brown OP top fuel
John Brown OP top fuel Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend	For a long time I've wanted to know how many Valiant Sedan Deliverys were made for the government or the military, and what years were they made. Some time in the 60's I was coming home from Indy and stopped at a restaurant near Bunker Hill Air Force Base and there was a blue Valiant sedan delivery in the parking lot with Air Force markings on the door. I had seen several windowed 55-56-57 Chevy sedan deliverys that were made for military and the forest service so I wasn't too surprised to see a Valiant that was special made too. Any one have any facts and figures on these special Valiant deliverys? July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John Brown] #1645898 07/15/14 07:56 PM 07/15/14 07:56 PM
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Powerflow pro stock P Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,295 New Jersey	I went to lots of Federal auctions in the 1970's and never saw a Valiant sedan delivery. I saw (and bought) quite a few Fairlane and Belvedere SD's. The VINs on the Mopar SD's that I bought started with 'RL45' just like a regular base-line station wagon, so coming up with production numbers may be difficult.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John Brown] #1645899 07/15/14 08:17 PM 07/15/14 08:17 PM
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John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,783 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: I had seen several windowed 55-56-57 Chevy sedan deliverys that were made for military and the forest service Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the absence of windows what differentiates a station wagon from a sedan delivery? The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John Brown] #1645900 07/15/14 08:26 PM 07/15/14 08:26 PM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA	I wonder if that is a Canadien made only model Or did some Air Force maintenance shop convert it into a sedan delivery so no one could see what was being transported in it I've have seen station wagons converted into sedan deliveries by custom auto body builders, those looked better than the originals did Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: Cab_Burge] #1645901 07/15/14 09:37 PM 07/15/14 09:37 PM
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Pynzo Drugs are bad Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,386 Philadelphia PA	Barris did this one for the Duke. They're restoring it now. http://www.barris.com/carsgallery/kurrentprojects/johnwayne.php 8209521-image.jpg (250 downloads)

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: Pynzo] #1645902 07/15/14 10:21 PM 07/15/14 10:21 PM
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Powerflow pro stock P Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,295 New Jersey	Sedan deliveries used by the US Government (from the late sixties on up) looked like station wagons from the outside, and had a factory-installed load floor (platform) on the inside instead of a back seat. Earlier versions of sedan deliveries (1930's-'50's) had metal where the side windows went and looked like car-based panel trucks.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John_Kunkel] #1645903 07/16/14 12:55 AM 07/16/14 12:55 AM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend John Brown OP top fuel
John Brown OP top fuel Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend	Quote: Quote: I had seen several windowed 55-56-57 Chevy sedan deliverys that were made for military and the forest service Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the absence of windows what differentiates a station wagon from a sedan delivery? The big difference was the tailgate. Sedan deliverys had the one piece rear hatch. Station wagons were split into two piece. Here's a pic of a 58 Chev windowed delivery too. 8209748-58nobackseat.jpg (165 downloads) July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John Brown] #1645904 07/16/14 01:04 AM 07/16/14 01:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,536 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,536 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	I saw a 65 Chevelle sedan delivery in Lafayette, IN around 1978 or so. It was green and had no side windows, to me that is a sedan delivery. The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: Powerflow] #1645905 07/16/14 01:09 AM 07/16/14 01:09 AM
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John Brown OP top fuel Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend	Quote: I went to lots of Federal auctions in the 1970's and never saw a Valiant sedan delivery. I saw (and bought) quite a few Fairlane and Belvedere SD's. The VINs on the Mopar SD's that I bought started with 'RL45' just like a regular base-line station wagon, so coming up with production numbers may be difficult. I'd venture that a Valiant sedan delivery would have had to have a separate body code, since I've never seen a two door Valiant station wagon. The Air Force unit I saw had only two doors and metal panels in the rear, not glass. That's not to say that it wasn't a one off, but that's why I'm asking. July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John Brown] #1645906 07/16/14 04:07 AM 07/16/14 04:07 AM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal	There was an article in MCG magazine years ago about on that had been made into a pro street car. There was some info on it. IIRC, the pro street car was blue and silver. But that was years ago.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: autoxcuda] #1645907 07/16/14 04:18 AM 07/16/14 04:18 AM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal	Have you tried Googling "60 valiant sedan delivery" ??? I did and came up with this: http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=128119 Quote: Anyone have any information on these? I understand they were made for Bell Telephone back in 60-61-62? Photos, specs, anything? Google images came up with this:

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: Pynzo] #1645908 07/16/14 04:39 AM 07/16/14 04:39 AM
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Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal	Quote: Barris did this one for the Duke. They're restoring it now. http://www.barris.com/carsgallery/kurrentprojects/johnwayne.php Thats going to the auction in Monterey, estimates are it will sell for about $70K.. Just my $0.05...

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: autoxcuda] #1645909 07/16/14 10:24 AM 07/16/14 10:24 AM
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John Brown OP top fuel Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend	Quote: Have you tried Googling "60 valiant sedan delivery" ??? I did and came up with this: http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=128119 Anyone have any information on these? I understand they were made for Bell Telephone back in 60-61-62? Photos, specs, anything? That link was the mother load of information I was looking for. I didn't google it cause I was sure the Moparts army would have more info than anyone else. As it turns out, I was right in my assumption. And thanks to everyone for proving that I wasn't hallucinating after having a really bad meal. July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John Brown] #1645910 07/16/14 02:11 PM 07/16/14 02:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal	Quote: Quote: Have you tried Googling "60 valiant sedan delivery" ??? I did and came up with this: http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=128119 Anyone have any information on these? I understand they were made for Bell Telephone back in 60-61-62? Photos, specs, anything? That link was the mother load of information I was looking for. I didn't google it cause I was sure the Moparts army would have more info than anyone else. As it turns out, I was right in my assumption. ... No they(I) didn't offer any information of their(my) own. All I did was Google it. You could have done the same. I bet you could look deeper with Google searches and find more info.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: autoxcuda] #1645911 07/17/14 12:22 AM 07/17/14 12:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,536 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,536 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	There is a 64 Chevy II sedan delivery near me for sale, two door with metal over the rear side windows and it is factory. 8210767-chargephonepics1422.jpg (227 downloads) Last edited by Rhinodart; 07/17/14 12:26 AM. The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John Brown] #1645912 07/17/14 02:23 PM 07/17/14 02:23 PM
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John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,783 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: The big difference was the tailgate. Sedan deliverys had the one piece rear hatch. Station wagons were split into two piece. Here's a pic of a 58 Chev windowed delivery too. I wouldn't call either of those a sedan delivery. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John_Kunkel] #1645913 07/17/14 02:27 PM 07/17/14 02:27 PM
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2abodymcodes master 2 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,502 Shelby, Ohio	i believe chevy called them handyman wagons.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: 2abodymcodes] #1645914 07/18/14 07:35 PM 07/18/14 07:35 PM
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Powerflow pro stock P Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,295 New Jersey	Quote: i believe chevy called them handyman wagons. ....and Ford called them Couriers.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: 2abodymcodes] #1645915 07/18/14 10:54 PM 07/18/14 10:54 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend John Brown OP top fuel
John Brown OP top fuel Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend	Quote: i believe chevy called them handyman wagons. Quote: ....and Ford called them Couriers. Handyman wagons used a two piece tailgates and had rear seating. I'll buy the fact that Couriers had a top hinged one piece rear gate, but all I have seen also had steel panels instead of windows on the sides. Doesn't mean that there weren't some that were made with flat load floor instead of rear seats that also had rear side glass. Here's another 57 Chevy that fits the template of a flat rear floor and a one piece rear hatch. No doubt the trim tags would tell the tale if they could be seen. 8212661-57sd3.jpg (436 downloads) July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

Re: How many Valiant Sedan Deliverys [Re: John Brown] #1645916 07/18/14 10:57 PM 07/18/14 10:57 PM
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John Brown OP top fuel Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,821 South Bend	One more pic. 8212665-57sd4.jpg (184 downloads) July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

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