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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: n20mstr]
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07/11/14 02:26 PM
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Should have just went big block......lol
I wish I did to be honest....At least there is more aftermarket support for them then the SB's.
Small block chrysler has little options, and its either mild or wild, no in between....which is a direct relation to the little selection of parts.
I remember Brian from IMM saying that Trick Flow was going to make a head for the SB mopar...wonder whatever happened to that?
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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07/11/14 05:42 PM
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Should have just went big block......lol
I wish I did to be honest....At least there is more aftermarket support for them then the SB's.
Small block chrysler has little options, and its either mild or wild, no in between....which is a direct relation to the little selection of parts.
I remember Brian from IMM saying that Trick Flow was going to make a head for the SB mopar...wonder whatever happened to that?
I'm betting a BIG block head will be released by them way before any small block stuff.
Probably....if it ever even happens...having no selection is actually quite frustrating. Its nice to have choices, and with the sb's there is not much
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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07/11/14 05:53 PM
07/11/14 05:53 PM
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Should have just went big block......lol
I wish I did to be honest....At least there is more aftermarket support for them then the SB's.
Small block chrysler has little options, and its either mild or wild, no in between....which is a direct relation to the little selection of parts.
I remember Brian from IMM saying that Trick Flow was going to make a head for the SB mopar...wonder whatever happened to that?
I'm betting a BIG block head will be released by them way before any small block stuff.
 Why would they release a good small block head when there are no blocks to support them?
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: mshred]
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07/11/14 06:03 PM
07/11/14 06:03 PM
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Should have just went big block......lol
I wish I did to be honest....At least there is more aftermarket support for them then the SB's.
Small block chrysler has little options, and its either mild or wild, no in between....which is a direct relation to the little selection of parts.
I remember Brian from IMM saying that Trick Flow was going to make a head for the SB mopar...wonder whatever happened to that?
I'm betting a BIG block head will be released by them way before any small block stuff.
Probably....if it ever even happens...having no selection is actually quite frustrating. Its nice to have choices, and with the sb's there is not much
With the above BUT!!!!!!!!!
The G3 will satisfy most need on this board. The are pushing 700 hp on a factory block
The first 5.7 head will flow 320 cnc'd, the apache will go 340 out of the box
You got the 6.4 block in almost everything from trucks to r/ts to hellcat. So availability will be good.
So IMO pick your poison.
 Matt
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: WHITEDART]
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07/12/14 02:00 AM
07/12/14 02:00 AM
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and dont forget the new eddy victor..i think we have seen them stop production before.. how ever with the gen3 stuff and all the p7 stuff that is been sold for next to nothing.all the guys that have been holding on to there w7/w8/w9 stuff for years are starting to sale the stuff to people that will actually use them.. and the victor head available.the demand is there..look like we need to put some pressure on them..to bad the other block i wont say the name is such junk.. 
Thanks for the reminder i just added the P5-7 to that short list see its real hard to remember these very few options we have 
Yes the Edelbrock Victor heads should be a real nice addition to this if they ever end up being available. i wonder if the delay is just from edelbrock doing there homework from the bigblock Victor heads where there where some isues finding rockerarms that worked with the different deckheights and lifterstyles. 
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: 1Fast340]
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07/12/14 03:16 AM
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and dont forget the new eddy victor..i think we have seen them stop production before.. how ever with the gen3 stuff and all the p7 stuff that is been sold for next to nothing.all the guys that have been holding on to there w7/w8/w9 stuff for years are starting to sale the stuff to people that will actually use them.. and the victor head available.the demand is there..look like we need to put some pressure on them..to bad the other block i wont say the name is such junk..
Thanks for the reminder i just added the P5-7 to that short list see its real hard to remember these very few options we have
Yes the Edelbrock Victor heads should be a real nice addition to this if they ever end up being available. i wonder if the delay is just from edelbrock doing there homework from the bigblock Victor heads where there where some isues finding rockerarms that worked with the different deckheights and lifterstyles.
Wow, aren't you a champ there compiling a list....Now, how many on that list are a) not a twin to a magnum version b) not ridiculous to find, still produced, or actually usable when you do find them c) don't require changing to exotic or application specific parts totally unique to that head ONLY d) are not just a pre existing head ported/ modified
Sorry, but half those heads you listed are the same as one another, discontinued, exotic, not worth it (imo) to even bother running, etc....Like I said, there is no in between with the SBM- there is entry level, and there is full on race. To be quite frank, I think out of ALL those heads the majority are Mopar, and only a couple (commando, W2, W9) are even easily attainable. Many are only available second hand, or like finding a needle in a haystack. Hell, you even are mentioning Eddy Victors, yet they still really haven't even become available!
Your list means diddly s$%* to me- it actually makes me think what I said is even more true....LOL...Compared to sbc, sbf, or even bbm there are few choices imo
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: mshred]
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07/12/14 04:12 AM
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and dont forget the new eddy victor..i think we have seen them stop production before.. how ever with the gen3 stuff and all the p7 stuff that is been sold for next to nothing.all the guys that have been holding on to there w7/w8/w9 stuff for years are starting to sale the stuff to people that will actually use them.. and the victor head available.the demand is there..look like we need to put some pressure on them..to bad the other block i wont say the name is such junk..
Thanks for the reminder i just added the P5-7 to that short list see its real hard to remember these very few options we have
Yes the Edelbrock Victor heads should be a real nice addition to this if they ever end up being available. i wonder if the delay is just from edelbrock doing there homework from the bigblock Victor heads where there where some isues finding rockerarms that worked with the different deckheights and lifterstyles.
Wow, aren't you a champ there compiling a list....Now, how many on that list are a) not a twin to a magnum version b) not ridiculous to find, still produced, or actually usable when you do find them c) don't require changing to exotic or application specific parts totally unique to that head ONLY d) are not just a pre existing head ported/ modified
Sorry, but half those heads you listed are the same as one another, discontinued, exotic, not worth it (imo) to even bother running, etc....Like I said, there is no in between with the SBM- there is entry level, and there is full on race. To be quite frank, I think out of ALL those heads the majority are Mopar, and only a couple (commando, W2, W9) are even easily attainable. Many are only available second hand, or like finding a needle in a haystack. Hell, you even are mentioning Eddy Victors, yet they still really haven't even become available!
Your list means diddly s$%* to me- it actually makes me think what I said is even more true....LOL...Compared to sbc, sbf, or even bbm there are few choices imo
You should know by know that the Ford and GM crowd wont start biotching if they have to get headers or intakes that are specific to fit when they upgrade in the cylinderhead department. and for some reason they wont start trowing fits like unciviliced 4year olds either if they end up having a need for a new set of rockerarms either.
Most times when you start building a new engine you will end up replaceing all these items anyway and the price is not all that bad considering that in most cases you end up with much better parts when buying the suporting hardware to fit the slightly more exotic heads. only the moparcrowd is complaining about these facts and thats one of the big reasons why so few new products are being developed.
come to think of it,your indyheads are among those exotic highpriced pieces so why are you complaining?
since you are such a fantastic worldchampion at this why dont YOU invent a new head that takes all stock garbage parts and makes 6565654654HP with a purple shaft and idles like a stock 318?
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: mshred]
#1644082
07/12/14 04:38 AM
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and dont forget the new eddy victor..i think we have seen them stop production before.. how ever with the gen3 stuff and all the p7 stuff that is been sold for next to nothing.all the guys that have been holding on to there w7/w8/w9 stuff for years are starting to sale the stuff to people that will actually use them.. and the victor head available.the demand is there..look like we need to put some pressure on them..to bad the other block i wont say the name is such junk..
Thanks for the reminder i just added the P5-7 to that short list see its real hard to remember these very few options we have
Yes the Edelbrock Victor heads should be a real nice addition to this if they ever end up being available. i wonder if the delay is just from edelbrock doing there homework from the bigblock Victor heads where there where some isues finding rockerarms that worked with the different deckheights and lifterstyles.
Wow, aren't you a champ there compiling a list....Now, how many on that list are a) not a twin to a magnum version b) not ridiculous to find, still produced, or actually usable when you do find them c) don't require changing to exotic or application specific parts totally unique to that head ONLY d) are not just a pre existing head ported/ modified
Sorry, but half those heads you listed are the same as one another, discontinued, exotic, not worth it (imo) to even bother running, etc....Like I said, there is no in between with the SBM- there is entry level, and there is full on race. To be quite frank, I think out of ALL those heads the majority are Mopar, and only a couple (commando, W2, W9) are even easily attainable. Many are only available second hand, or like finding a needle in a haystack. Hell, you even are mentioning Eddy Victors, yet they still really haven't even become available!
Your list means diddly s$%* to me- it actually makes me think what I said is even more true....LOL...Compared to sbc, sbf, or even bbm there are few choices imo
what range are you calling in between?
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Re: Dear Mopar corporation
[Re: mshred]
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07/12/14 10:18 AM
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Wow, aren't you a champ there compiling a list....Now, how many on that list are a) not a twin to a magnum version b) not ridiculous to find, still produced, or actually usable when you do find them c) don't require changing to exotic or application specific parts totally unique to that head ONLY d) are not just a pre existing head ported/ modified
Sorry, but half those heads you listed are the same as one another, discontinued, exotic, not worth it (imo) to even bother running, etc....Like I said, there is no in between with the SBM- there is entry level, and there is full on race. To be quite frank, I think out of ALL those heads the majority are Mopar, and only a couple (commando, W2, W9) are even easily attainable. Many are only available second hand, or like finding a needle in a haystack. Hell, you even are mentioning Eddy Victors, yet they still really haven't even become available!
Your list means diddly s$%* to me- it actually makes me think what I said is even more true....LOL...Compared to sbc, sbf, or even bbm there are few choices imo
and there is the MR J head aswell. here is something to keep in mind with the other brands you are right many heads to pick from. you only need 1 or 2 heads for each power level.so if you are doing a 400hp motor stock stuff will get you there .if you are looking 650hp or less eddy rmp or the mr.j/procomp.is the one. if you want up to 750hp give indy. brodex a call. and if want more than 750hp n/a w7/w8/w9/9rp.these heads can make as much as 1000hp n/a. so we will spend a few bucks more but we all no that. the story here is about the r3 block not been made. most of the guys that need a race block are ready to spend some extra coin and looking for more than 650hp, we have more heads now than ever we just need our r3 back
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's
5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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