Hello all finally working on my Bee again.When I got the car painted I had some old 295-65-15's on 15x10 weld pro stars 5.5 offset.I decided to go with wheel vintiques steelies 15x10 5.5 offset,with 285-70-15 from coker tire.put them on the car today they fit but they are damn close to hitting the fender on the front.almost looks like the rear is not centered?Or does this look right to you?

I measured and it seemed like these would fit,also saw a 68 roadrunner with these sorry no pic.his seemed to fit better?There is no weight in the back yet not tank etc..so why so much more space towards the rear?I really hope I dd not just make a huge mistake.The car has espo 1+ springs anybody running a tire combo like this?Does it work?pics?Its close enough on the front that I wont be able to install the wheel moulding.Really wanted the big and little look with as much tire as would fit.Hope I did not just waste $500

my guess is that your shackles are facing in toward the front of the car, vs the way they should be facing is out toward the rear of the car. that will center the axle more in the wheel well. or you put the spring on wrong front to back. although that's really hard to do.

So why would the spring shackle face the frt? I just slid the axle under my car and a) the rear appears to sit way high. b)the shackles face the frt.. I have s.s. springs and the frt hangers are from Mancini, they sold me everything.. Not to highjack, but that does look close. Pic is hard for me to see. Kevin

A 285 70 15 tire in mighty tall..

had a something like that happen to me.
ordered a new set of front hangers that turned out to be for using ebody springs.
pulled the whole rear forward and made it look like that.
it bent the springs backwards after only a year or so of driving.
only realized after the damage was done to the springs that the front was wrong.

I did not install the rear axle.My body guys did when the removed the car from the jig we built.How should the shackles look? here is a pic

that is wrong.
they should go the other way. like this.


either the front hanger is wrong, or the leaf springs are wrong and have a shorter front segment. basically what happened to me.

Some s/s springs like the 002/003's have shorter front segments and need different front hangers for B bodies.

The front spring hangers may be to blame.
There are many variations of front hangers. There are some with the spring mounting hole further forward than others. I had this problem with the Charger. Years ago I bought some SS hangers and drilled holes up higher to lower the car. Later I wanted to raise the car up so I grabbed a pair I had of unknown origin. When you try to fit the biggest tire in there that you can, problems like this rear their ugly heads. If you stuck a skinny F-70-14 in there, you'd probably never notice.
I drove my car about 100 miles with the wrong hangers in place. The tires made contact at the front edge of the opening when entering driveways sideways. I noticed that the wheel opening moldings were bent and I figured that something was amiss. I looked through my stash and found a pair that had the mounting hole further back. I think I was off by about an inch. I never looked at the shackle angle but it is true, they need to have the rear spring eye behind the upper shackle eye. Having it forward puts the spring in a bind.
I'm still running the same springs from Mopar Performance, the XHD versions.

Great both could be bad.How do you check or measure your hangers to see if there correct?I will contact espo on the springs.It has taken me so long to build this car,I bought those springs in 2009 so if there wrong I;m out some more!ya sorry rant over this damn car is sucking the life out of me lately.

you have to remember not all factory panels were installed with the blueprint specs as designed. also, the tolerances were not even remotely close to todays manufacturing techniques. with that being said, if you have the correct front spring brackets for your application, I have made many spacers to correct the tire/wheel opening in all body styles. they are made from billet aluminium stock and have ranged from 3/8"-1" in thickness. this greatly improves tire clearance to the front 1/4 opening, as well as the appearance from the side view. but, unless you have adequate front yoke engagement, the driveshaft may have to be lengthened or a different yoke installed. and as have already been mentioned, your spring shackles must point to the rear.

it isn't really the hangers you measure.
measure the front segment of the leaf springs and see what they actually are.
if they are correct for a b-body, then your hangers are suspect.
if they are short, you know you have the right hangers, just the wrong springs.

early b- 21 x 35
66 and up b- 22 x 36
e-body 22 x 35
r,f,m and J 24 x 34

All SS springs have a 20 inch front segment.They are pretty much A body springs no matter which ones you have.Most late B are 22 inch and Es Im not sure on the length of front segment.When I put them on my 65 Mancin sold me MP hangers.Totally wrong for my car.I finally got the right ones That member Andy makes.Mancini carries them also. Yes the shackles should face toward the rear.Rocky

That's pretty close and probably is the right parts?
Have you put the entire weight of the car on them yet? Including the motor and trans?

I bet when you get enough weight on the springs it will allow those shackles to angle toward the rear.

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I have not put the weight of anything in the car yet.Have not had the funds to get it done yet.I measured the springs from the center bolt to the center of each spring eye,22 front 36 rear so hopefully they are correct.I took the hangers off this car years ago the springs were scrap.this doesn't mean they were correct.

So what should I try?I really don't want to buy hangers and end up with the same issue.Can they be measured to see whats up?As someone above mentioned can I fab a spacer to move them back?Other options? or am I trying for to big of a tire here?

How much do you guys think it will drop the rear if the weight will correct the shackles?would like the bottom of the quarter to be a lot closer to the top of the tire,Anyone here with plus one springs have this issue?Sorry for the long winded post thanks guys

The problem with making spacers is that the studs are pressed into the hangers and they're not very long. I'd say you want to move things one inch at least

My DC catalog list different front hangers for Dodge & Plymouth B-body's,(for SS springs) You may have Plymouth hangers and or springs.

Don't get excited just yet...You're jumping the gun on assuming you have a problem....Those ESPO springs are highly arched and you have no weight on them... The arch of the front segment alone will pull the axle forward from the center of your wheel opening...If you lower the car with just a shell it's not going to be at it's final resting position and you may not even get the rear shackles to go back{over center} to the correct orientation without some help as you lower it...This is normal with a high arch spring...

The more components{weight} you add to the car the "flatter" the front segment will get pushing the axle back to an acceptable position...

The problem your experiencing I had the same issue on 2 customers cars running Super Stock spring set ups, the first car had new SS springs and it took about a week or so for the spring to "compress/relax" into proper position, luckily on the second car the SS springs had been on for some time, and could be coaxed back into position after re-assy by prying back on the rear shackles with an assistant

Mike

I hung the qtrs on this customers car with the SS springs in place as well as the 31" tires, no mods other than tubs to the qtrs (AMD full qtrs), after re-assy the rear wheel/tire assy was pretty much like your pic with the car sitting higher and the wheel/tire within an 1" or less of the front wheel opening, definitely one of those WTF moments! I didhave a pic of it sitting high and located far forward (can't find it now!) but like I said earlier on this customers car the rear shackles could be pulled rearward by me and an assistant because the SS springs had a few years/hard launches on them, at this point the car was just still a somewhat bare shell, no motor/tranny, no interior, no gas tank, glass, etc, etc, etc