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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: Al_Alguire] #1632312
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So I wonder what gives duallies the most observed improvement, 4 tire sidewalls of stiffness, stiffer springs, wider stance, and/or almost double the tire weight rating?




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Well if anybody has run with only the outside set of tires on a dually, we might get some more insight. However the floater bearings may not be happy.


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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: jcc] #1632313
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Having vans that have 10K GVW I have found it is the tire's or quality of the tire's Use name tires will get you a better ride and less sway. I prefer goodyears and Michilin along with several others get min of load range E or better.And get a tire that does not look like a bike tire, yes they are expensive but worth it

Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #1632314
06/13/14 06:18 PM
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My 06 3500 sw is a nice fast truck but my 92 2500 sw could carry more weight without squatting like an old car. My 24 ft trailer drops about 4-5 inches when hooked up, 92 about a inch.I put a 1000 pound welder in the back thought it was going to blow the tires, guess they put softer springs on the new ones. The new diesels have some serious HP though, if you're rich buy a dually.

Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: cudaman1969] #1632315
06/13/14 08:24 PM
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The tough thing between the stick/auto is engine rating.

With a DRW the stick option is 660ft/lb and the Aisin auto will bump you to 850ft/lb. the newer models do not have deletes yet available and tuners are slow to the market so it's not a simple option to gain that power back.

I think stick will probably always have a bit better resale value being Ram is the only one with that option. The Aisin has been top notch but is a pricey option, around $2-2500. The 68rfe is a darn good auto as well and is the base option in most trucks.

Good luck

Cumminsforum.com has a lot of good info on the new trucks.

Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1632316
06/13/14 09:37 PM
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1 more thing to think about when towing a trailer srw and a rear tire failure not so good, with a drw no problem you keep on trucking till you can pull of the interstate.




Yep, when you blow a tire on a dually you buy a new bedside, DAMHIK! Especially the new dually's that have plastic bedsides. I blew a tire on my SRW towing my trailer and there were no issues at all, I was going 65 MPH and pulled over to the shoulder, no damage on my bed, changed the tire, and went on my way. I have probably towed more than anyone on this board, but you don't have to believe me.


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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: Rhinodart] #1632317
06/13/14 10:47 PM
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1 more thing to think about when towing a trailer srw and a rear tire failure not so good, with a drw no problem you keep on trucking till you can pull of the interstate.




Yep, when you blow a tire on a dually you buy a new bedside, DAMHIK! Especially the new dually's that have plastic bedsides. I blew a tire on my SRW towing my trailer and there were no issues at all, I was going 65 MPH and pulled over to the shoulder, no damage on my bed, changed the tire, and went on my way. I have probably towed more than anyone on this board, but you don't have to believe me.




yeah and you where on the shoulder with other vehicles wizzing by. I will take a DRW every day of the week when pulling.

I have pulled open trailers, enclosed race trailers and my 35' 5th wheel all over the south east and for me its a DRW all the way.


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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: Al_Alguire] #1632318
06/13/14 10:58 PM
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Our 2006 Mega Cab 2500 pulls everything we own with ease, and Is fairly easy to park

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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: BloFish] #1632319
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Our 2006 Mega Cab 2500 pulls everything we own with ease, and Is fairly easy to park




Im sure it does, but when you start pulling around a larger trailer or 5th wheel that's
10-20k the DRW is just more stable.


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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1632320
06/14/14 01:14 AM
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1 more thing to think about when towing a trailer srw and a rear tire failure not so good, with a drw no problem you keep on trucking till you can pull of the interstate.




Yep, when you blow a tire on a dually you buy a new bedside, DAMHIK! Especially the new dually's that have plastic bedsides. I blew a tire on my SRW towing my trailer and there were no issues at all, I was going 65 MPH and pulled over to the shoulder, no damage on my bed, changed the tire, and went on my way. I have probably towed more than anyone on this board, but you don't have to believe me.




yeah and you where on the shoulder with other vehicles wizzing by. I will take a DRW every day of the week when pulling.

I have pulled open trailers, enclosed race trailers and my 35' 5th wheel all over the south east and for me its a DRW all the way.




Had a 48' fifth wheel and I did pull it with a 99, 05, and 07 dually's. Also pulled this monster for 200K miles...

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The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.

JB Rhinehart, Realist

A-Body's RULE!
Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice [Re: Rhinodart] #1632321
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1 more thing to think about when towing a trailer srw and a rear tire failure not so good, with a drw no problem you keep on trucking till you can pull of the interstate.




Yep, when you blow a tire on a dually you buy a new bedside, DAMHIK! Especially the new dually's that have plastic bedsides. I blew a tire on my SRW towing my trailer and there were no issues at all, I was going 65 MPH and pulled over to the shoulder, no damage on my bed, changed the tire, and went on my way. I have probably towed more than anyone on this board, but you don't have to believe me.




yeah and you where on the shoulder with other vehicles wizzing by. I will take a DRW every day of the week when pulling.

I have pulled open trailers, enclosed race trailers and my 35' 5th wheel all over the south east and for me its a DRW all the way.




Had a 48' fifth wheel and I did pull it with a 99, 05, and 07 dually's. Also pulled this monster for 200K miles...





sweet rig


70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake

best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
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