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Hotchkis Autocross Series #1628063
06/03/14 11:59 AM
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Santa Fe Springs, CA
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For those of you who don't know, we have 3 events happening this year at Auto Club Speedway in conjunction with NMCA/NMRA through the year. We've got video from the first event, and we had a good helping of Mopars at the event. Even get to see my wife pounding around in her Dart!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYqVD9SQyA

More details here:
http://www.hotchkis.net/press_release.html?ID=102
http://www.hotchkis.net/nmca-autocross.html

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1628064
06/03/14 04:00 PM
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Just might make the June events!
Hopefully my car is done by then


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Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1628065
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That looks awesome and the perfect distance away! I might take my Scion out to the June event and possibly take out my Dart to the October event if it's ready and I'm free.

Are there any rules or rentals with regards to safety equipment?

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628066
06/03/14 06:22 PM
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That looks awesome and the perfect distance away! I might take my Scion out to the June event and possibly take out my Dart to the October event if it's ready and I'm free.

Are there any rules or rentals with regards to safety equipment?




Link above has all the info. Rules are pretty liberal and a basic safety check.

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1628067
06/18/14 12:57 PM
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Just a reminder guys, next event is this weekend! Hope some of you can make it out!

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1628068
06/19/14 01:58 AM
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I'll bring out my 2011 Scion tC on Saturday. Are there any tips for someone who hasn't autocrossed before?

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628069
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There will be plenty of seasoned drivers there. Make some friends and learn! Anyone with a Hotchkis banner on their car will be more than willing to help.

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1628070
06/20/14 07:16 PM
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Just talked to one of my coworkers for some tips. I'm probably going to try to get there around 7 am to get through tech and walk the track. I'm going to bring a small cooler, fold up chair, and maybe an EZ up. It's supposed to be 90 degrees or so tomorrow.

I will also be filming my next episode of the MuuMuu Report. I know it's been 3 months or so since the last one, but I just got a new skeleton case and mic for the GoPro. So, I'll film a couple runs and me talking, of course.

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628071
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I had fun on Saturday and met a moparts member there with his '67 Valiant. I need to get my Dart build going if it's going to be ready for the October event. In the mean time, I might start doing some autocrossing with my Stealth as it's just sitting. My dad showed some interest, so once my Dart is running and safe, my dad can take the Stealth and we can race together.

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628072
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Glad you had fun! Sounds like you ran into Tom. That was his first event out with that car.

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1628073
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Glad you had fun! Sounds like you ran into Tom. That was his first event out with that car.




Yep. That was Tom. He parked next to my Scion and the first thing he said was, "You have a Dart, right?!" I may join him and the guys for a couple events down in San Diego.

To be honest, I was surprised at how well that Valiant performed. It didn't do too bad for what it was. It did fairly well compared to some of the high dollar cars. It was a pretty basic setup too. I'm building my Dart similarly to that Valiant, so I'm excited.

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628074
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PICS! PICS!

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: dangina] #1628075
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PICS! PICS!




I didn't take many/any pics. All I had was my phone and I didn't want it to die. Unfortunately, my gopro mounted to my windshield died too after about 4-5 laps or so. I'll edit the videos of each run individually as well as film some more for the MuuMuu Report. I just need time to edit and cut it all.

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628076
06/24/14 06:19 PM
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Samy, it was a pleasure meeting you, turns out the Valiant was running on 7 cylinders (bad plug) and the course was very tight, leaving me at crazy low RPM s due to the a833 OD second gear ratio. Hoping to put on a better show at next weekends Qualcom CAM event!

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Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628077
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So, I accidentally set my GoPro to 60 fps and my video editing software can't render it properly. It can only go as high as 30 fps. Gaaaaah!

Edit: I figured it out. I'll post some videos soon.

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Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628078
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Here are some of my GoPro shots from on top of my car... Notice how the audio has approved greatly.

4th Lap - 44.046 secs: I was still trying some new things and figuring out when would be the best time to shift. That's why you hear the rev limiter on the Slalom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZ6jq1YPcU&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628079
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Quote:

Here are some of my GoPro shots from on top of my car... Notice how the audio has approved greatly.

4th Lap - 44.046 secs: I was still trying some new things and figuring out when would be the best time to shift. That's why you hear the rev limiter on the Slalom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZ6jq1YPcU&feature=youtu.be




From watching the video, and from my experience with autocrossing both my '04 Chevrolet Colorado and '12 Chevrolet Cruze, I'd suggest you make one upshift to 2nd gear and leave it there. One of the most important things in autocrossing is to be smooth, and that will help a lot.

For the slalom, try to make it as straight as possible (almost clip the cones on both sides), and also you'll want to apex the corners a lot closer to the turn cone than you are, even if it means washing out wider first. Brake before turn-in, and power on once you have the body moving in the right direction.

If you really want to learn this fast, go to a go-karting place and do some runs with some experienced guys.


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Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: goldduster318] #1628080
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I got lucky at Woodward!
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Quote:

Here are some of my GoPro shots from on top of my car... Notice how the audio has approved greatly.

4th Lap - 44.046 secs: I was still trying some new things and figuring out when would be the best time to shift. That's why you hear the rev limiter on the Slalom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZ6jq1YPcU&feature=youtu.be




From watching the video, and from my experience with autocrossing both my '04 Chevrolet Colorado and '12 Chevrolet Cruze, I'd suggest you make one upshift to 2nd gear and leave it there. One of the most important things in autocrossing is to be smooth, and that will help a lot.

For the slalom, try to make it as straight as possible (almost clip the cones on both sides), and also you'll want to apex the corners a lot closer to the turn cone than you are, even if it means washing out wider first. Brake before turn-in, and power on once you have the body moving in the right direction.

If you really want to learn this fast, go to a go-karting place and do some runs with some experienced guys.




Yeah, that was my 4th lap and I was still trying to get a good launch going and maneuvering through the slalom and the last back half of the track (which I still had trouble with by the end of the day). I ended up shifting to second after the first part of the slalom but if I kept it in second, the car would bog too much and I still didn't have enough power. By the end of the day I was getting pretty good at upshifting and downshifting where I needed to. Plus, there's no way to permanently disable traction control on the tC without pulling a sensor or a fuse. There's a button to turn it off, but it comes right back on once you hit 30 mph so I was fighting that the entire time. Plus, my Michelin Pilot Sports are a pretty soft compared to the other tires 99% of other people were utilizing.

I'm still editing my 6th and 7th lap (GoPro died after that). I started off at 48.916 seconds on my first lap and by the end of the day I was able to knock it down to 40.230 seconds (9th or 10th lap). They gave us 3 sets of runs with 3 laps each (the timing lights failed on one of my runs so I got an extra one).

6th Lap - 42.945 secs: I was shifting better but was taking my corners too fast causing me to miss my lines and not brake appropriately. As you can see, halfway through I got a little squirely bringing the back half out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHqbd2F8O6A&feature=youtu.be

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628081
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Here's my 7th Lap. This one I was really trying to smooth everything out and focus less on power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1Y3PVtvGJ4&feature=youtu.be

Re: Hotchkis Autocross Series [Re: MuuMuu101] #1628082
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See if any of your local clubs give lessons. Sometimes those lessons are for members, and usually new members only and the older member help out, then make a few runs during lunch time. Also check for the local SCCA Regional clubs, they usualy have classes for anybody.


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