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518 Pump Install Problem #1624315
05/24/14 01:58 AM
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Trans was working good before...removed the front pump to drill case and relocate vent from stock location. Drilled and tapped the case and installed a fitting for the vent. Removed the stock plastic vent and installed a pipe plug.

I did not snug the front band adjustment before removing pump to hold anything. On reassembly the pump needed to be tapped and bolts snugged more and tapped to get the pump in. After doing this the shaft does not have any endplay and does not want to turn by hand either. Heard a possible pop sound while torquing the bolts..may have been the pump seating itself?

I am guessing something came out of alignment while the pump was out and the transmission was horizontal? Trans was sitting horizontal with pump removed for a few days. Trans was also drained for several weeks before the pump was removed and installed again.

Any idea what is going on in the trans and how to fix or investigate further?

Thanks for any advice.

Re: 518 Pump Install Problem [Re: 76440] #1624316
05/24/14 03:06 AM
05/24/14 03:06 AM
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you are going to have to remove the pump again...sounds like the clutch packs moved and are not fully engaged with each other..

set the trans on its tail shaft...let gravity help you..


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Re: 518 Pump Install Problem [Re: 70AARcuda] #1624317
05/24/14 03:20 PM
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Thanks for the reply.

I did stand the transmission vertical on the extension housing(4x4 trans) for re-installing the pump.

I pulled it out and tried to install with same results of the shaft having no endplay and not wanting to turn.

How would someone realign the clutches? Do I need to completely tear down the trans or is there something I can do with the pump out?

Thanks, I was trying to get this swapped into the truck this weekend and this issue is hurting the prospects of that.

Re: 518 Pump Install Problem [Re: 76440] #1624318
05/24/14 03:53 PM
05/24/14 03:53 PM
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I had a similar issue. The rear pack had slipped forward and didn't want to slide home again until I pulled the front assembly out.


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Re: 518 Pump Install Problem [Re: feets] #1624319
05/24/14 04:04 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PEFo3H6fQY

here is a youtube video of installing the clutch pac...but he should show you a side view thru the pan to show you where they are once they are fully seated...


Tony

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Re: 518 Pump Install Problem [Re: 70AARcuda] #1624320
05/24/14 04:30 PM
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Ok..I edited my video I have and uploaded the part where he installs the clutch and drums..

waiting for the upload to youtube to be done...

ok...see if this helps

http://youtu.be/WEWFJvCV-O4

Last edited by 70AARcuda; 05/24/14 04:37 PM.

Tony

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71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas)
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Re: 518 Pump Install Problem [Re: 70AARcuda] #1624321
05/24/14 04:34 PM
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Thanks a bunch. I was typing a long-winded pm to you.

Re: 518 Pump Install Problem [Re: 76440] #1624322
05/24/14 05:01 PM
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Thanks for posting that. Hopefully that does the trick. I will report back with my luck.

Re: 518 Pump Install Problem [Re: 76440] #1624323
05/24/14 11:30 PM
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Be careful of the 2 thrust washers between the input shaft and output shaft. Probably a good chance you bent a clutch or two.







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