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Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils #1621469
05/18/14 12:56 AM
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1968 Road Runner

What can I expect to see for suspension "travel" with a ladder bar setup?

To achieve the stance I wanted for the car, it is quite low.

As such, the ladder bars will enter IN to the body of the car.

I have a preliminary "notch" cut out for travel - but I am positive I need to add much more for "travel under launch/load".

As many of you may be able to ascertain from the photo's, I don't have much of a clue of what I'm doing - but I started this little "project" back in 1993 at age 28 - and I am just now picking up the pieces again and getting it finished.

Everyone - please take study - take a look at what I started 21 years ago and help me quickly mend this mess and let me get my Road Runner back on the chase!

Thanks!!!

Circled areas in red are where the ladder bars will travel up into the car.








Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: WyleECoyote] #1621470
05/18/14 01:46 AM
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whats the stance of the car??

drop another hole on the front mount.

You need to adj some spring load into the shocks.

why is the diagonal bar mounted wrong ??


I am truckless..
Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: 340SHORTY] #1621471
05/18/14 10:14 AM
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what am i missing. why is the diangle bar mounted wrong?


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Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: 340SHORTY] #1621472
05/18/14 02:12 PM
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whats the stance of the car??

drop another hole on the front mount.

You need to adj some spring load into the shocks.

why is the diagonal bar mounted wrong ??




It's just bolted in - can be switched easily. Again, show's you I didn't know what I was doing back then. Car has just sat since then.

Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: sixpacksteve] #1621473
05/18/14 02:23 PM
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Quote:

what am i missing. why is the diangle bar mounted wrong?


'diagonal'

the bearing in the bearing end needs to be mounted vertical, not horizontal.


as the suspension travels up and down the hime end/spherical rod bearing will bind because it'll be 'bending' sideways instead of 'turning' on the bearing.


Tom

"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."

-Henry David Thoreau

Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths

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Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: WyleECoyote] #1621474
05/18/14 02:29 PM
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What kind of car is this?
Sorry roadrunner, reread his post. It was in racing and engine section at first where I thought it belonged?
Why did it get moved to general?

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Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: Challenger 1] #1621475
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Tom

"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."

-Henry David Thoreau

Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths

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Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: amxautox] #1621476
05/18/14 03:48 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

what am i missing. why is the diangle bar mounted wrong?


'diagonal'

the bearing in the bearing end needs to be mounted vertical, not horizontal.


as the suspension travels up and down the hime end/spherical rod bearing will bind because it'll be 'bending' sideways instead of 'turning' on the bearing.




I have mine mounted horizontal... I have PLENTY of
travel but if it was a big travel suspension then
yes it would need to be vertical

Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1621477
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Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: amxautox] #1621478
05/19/14 01:31 AM
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Quote:

Quote:

what am i missing. why is the diangle bar mounted wrong?


'diagonal'

the bearing in the bearing end needs to be mounted vertical, not horizontal.


as the suspension travels up and down the hime end/spherical rod bearing will bind because it'll be 'bending' sideways instead of 'turning' on the bearing.




What do you mean "the bearing in the bearing end"?

Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: WyleECoyote] #1621479
05/19/14 01:37 AM
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

what am i missing. why is the diangle bar mounted wrong?


'diagonal'

the bearing in the bearing end needs to be mounted vertical, not horizontal.


as the suspension travels up and down the hime end/spherical rod bearing will bind because it'll be 'bending' sideways instead of 'turning' on the bearing.




What do you mean "the bearing in the bearing end"?




He is talking the center ball in the heim joint

Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: amxautox] #1621480
05/19/14 12:06 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

what am i missing. why is the diangle bar mounted wrong?


'diagonal'

the bearing in the bearing end needs to be mounted vertical, not horizontal.


as the suspension travels up and down the hime end/spherical rod bearing will bind because it'll be 'bending' sideways instead of 'turning' on the bearing.



Uh... all those components move together right? Leave them alone they are right.

Last edited by cudaman1969; 05/19/14 12:10 PM.
Re: Tossed Leaf Springs - Added Ladder Bars & Coils [Re: cudaman1969] #1621481
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I think your setup looks pretty good. If you got that far your doing better then many people I know.
You can notch the floor more if you need to. I like the bracket but I also always check for binding throughout the travel.
Make sure you set the shocks at the recommended install distance then set ride hight with the lower shock mount.

Nice Car!







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