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727 input shaft question... #1620254
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During the Mopars at the Strip in April, I snapped the stock input shaft on the 727... I was in the burnout box, in 2nd gear and hit the go pedal.. The rear tires made 3 revolutions and stopped..

J-body, Al Aguire, Curtis and few others forced me to replace it that night with another stock piece.. so I could finish out the weekend.. Which I couldnt have done without their help..

So now its time to get a new input shaft and was trying to find a decent piece at a fair price..

The motor is 900+-ish hp and the car weighs 3100-ish with driver.. So what would you recommend and where would you get it from?

Thanks

Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Jeepmon] #1620255
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dont know how many people actually make these, i know a&a has them, cope probably sells them too

Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: 68roadrunner] #1620256
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thats an item i hope i dont have to upgrade with my 572 but mine is in the 2500lb and will be foot braking, are you using a brake ? iknow the inputs are in the 6-700 price range

Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Jeepmon] #1620257
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I still run with the theory that somebody attempted disassembly at some point and possibly damaged it pressing it back on. Even the "performance" hubs available are aluminum. Fluke deal for sure....

http://www.tcsproducts.com/products/product/559/

And for those following, the input shaft was fine, but the hub in which it splines to broke around the circumference of the shaft. spline area held up, but about a 1/4" in it broke all the way around.

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Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: J_BODY] #1620258
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Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: J_BODY] #1620259
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However.... You NEED this! ASAP

http://www.tcsproducts.com/products/product/7/




Yes he does and we were just discussing it..


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Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1620260
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Added more to the list! This is fun$$$$$

Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: J_BODY] #1620261
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Added more to the list! This is fun$$$$$




Its always fun when its someone else's money.. huh? lol


I thought the part I needed was this one..
http://www.coanracing.com/Catalog.asp?ProductDetail=383

Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Jeepmon] #1620262
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The factory supplied two different input shafts, if the one you snapped was the common one you might save some money by just installing the factory HD shaft...it's identified by a groove in the splines 1/4" back from the front and (sometimes) yellow paint.

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Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: J_BODY] #1620263
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Nope you don't NEED the kickdown lever..But you do need the band strut as your was already bent then custom straightened in the trailer


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Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1620264
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Actually you really need a GLIDE!!!


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Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1620265
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Quote:

Actually you really need a GLIDE!!!


900 HP at 3100 lbs, I would look at at a Proflyte


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Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1620266
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Nah... nothing welding a 1/4" long carb stud to the strut can't fix... why spend $15 when you can fix it yourself for free!


Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: dizuster] #1620267
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New drum.. input shaft and band strut has been ordered.. Thanks everyone for your help

Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Jeepmon] #1620268
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Thats a smart move buying good parts.We broke 2 input shafts in Lisa's 904 and the second break took out the converter. I bought the 300M shaft and all has been good.Here is a pic of the second broke input, stator tube and main hub in converter. See ya at the track.



Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: WheelsUp73] #1620269
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I have a brand new TCS billet front input shaft if anyone needs one. $500 plus shipping. Just as in the picture above. Sold racecar before installing it.

Greg

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Quote:

Nah... nothing welding a 1/4" long carb stud to the strut can't fix... why spend $15 when you can fix it yourself for free!







lol, mine has a piece of keystock welded to it, didnt know they made good ones 15 years ago

Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Jeepmon] #1620271
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Should have bought a glide


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Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Al_Alguire] #1620272
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Should have bought a glide




Like you said... "kicking and screaming"

Re: 727 input shaft question... [Re: Jeepmon] #1620273
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Whats the HP level when you should upgrade? I have tcs one in garage but was told I didn't need it.

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