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anyone ever use palco stuff #1618842
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looking at challenger rear interior panels for my convertible, origs are wasted but complete no speaker holes but look like crap, how do the Palco ones look? this isn't a #s car just a driver.


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Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: azmopar] #1618843
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Run away! Palco ebody door panels suck. I could believe how bad they were when I saw them on a 70 cuda.
They don't look right
Feel right
Fit right
Sound right.

I am sure they don't smell right either.

Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: azmopar] #1618844
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I have a non numbers e body convertible that I used the rear interior panels on. I used nice originals on the doors. The Palcos don't look the same and are made using a harder more brittle plastic. Even though they are different, when someone is looking in the car the attention is mostly on the front panels and in my case most people don't see the difference and the fit is not horrible. You will need to do some trimming. I am happy with them in my situation, but I would not use them on a real car.

Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1618845
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Run away! Palco ebody door panels suck. I could believe how bad they were when I saw them on a 70 cuda.
They don't look right
Feel right
Fit right
Sound right.

I am sure they don't smell right either.




I had them (70 Challenger coupe) and have to agree. Installed Metro panels and LOVE them. Don't know if Metro ever produced convert panels though. Otherwise.....like stated.....Palco may better than your originals.

Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: 1970A66] #1618846
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The Palcos (or any others using the thermo-forming process) are not what I'd call a "valid" reproduction, IMO they are one small step above "unusable". It's simply the wrong manufacturing process to reproduce E-body door panels.

Originals were injection molded from Polyethylene, Palcos and others that are thermo-formed, are made of ABS, a TOTALLY different plastic with different properties. Metros are injection molded from the correct PE material, AFAIK they are the only source.

Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1618847
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Yes, my Metro panels are damn near perfect original correct looking when placed side-by-side with good original panels. Impressive!

Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1618848
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The Palcos (or any others using the thermo-forming process) are not what I'd call a "valid" reproduction, IMO they are one small step above "unusable". It's simply the wrong manufacturing process to reproduce E-body door panels.

Originals were injection molded from Polyethylene, Palcos and others that are thermo-formed, are made of ABS, a TOTALLY different plastic with different properties. Metros are injection molded from the correct PE material, AFAIK they are the only source.




ok BUT Metro doesn't make convertible rear panels


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Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: azmopar] #1618849
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ok BUT Metro doesn't make convertible rear panels





Then find good used originals, or and get some rough originals and get them repaired/recovered by Just Dashes. I simply would NOT use Palcos under any circumstances, cheapens the entire interior IMO.

Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1618850
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I simply would NOT use Palcos under any circumstances, cheapens the entire interior IMO.




I purchased some bench seat hinge covers for a '74 Duster from Year One that were from Palco. The grain was wrong, details murky, the screw holes were off a bit but it fell into the category of "better than nothing at all" as there is nothing else available for the application.

If you have other choices then don't bother with Palco.




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Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: gdonovan] #1618851
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The black kick panels are okay from Palco. I had a hell of a time getting the rear panels on the back of the bucket seats. They look the same, but it was a battle...lol.

I think the only advantage is the lower cost of the Palco panels - they're some good deals out there.

Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1618852
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Would some of you who are using the palcos please put some photos up?

Everytime this subject comes up people go off the deep end saying how bad they are but there is never any photos to go with it. What doesn't work for you, might work for someone else.

As long as they half fit, a person can modify them to suit their tastes or change the appearance. No different than a fiberglass hood that has to be re-worked.

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Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: Grizzly] #1618853
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Would some of you who are using the palcos please put some photos up?

Everytime this subject comes up people go off the deep end saying how bad they are but there is never any photos to go with it. What doesn't work for you, might work for someone else.

As long as they half fit, a person can modify them to suit their tastes or change the appearance. No different than a fiberglass hood that has to be re-worked.

Thanks.




I think it would be good to see a comparison between the Palco and Metro panels. I believe those are the only two on the market. The Palcos have been around for quite a long time. I'm not sure if they have revised the panels over the years. I believe the Metco panels are closer to the originals - they're made overseas and labor/machine costs are much less.

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Would some of you who are using the palcos please put some photos up?

Everytime this subject comes up people go off the deep end saying how bad they are but there is never any photos to go with it. What doesn't work for you, might work for someone else.

As long as they half fit, a person can modify them to suit their tastes or change the appearance. No different than a fiberglass hood that has to be re-worked.

Thanks.




I think it would be good to see a comparison between the Palco and Metro panels. I believe those are the only two on the market. The Palcos have been around for quite a long time. I'm not sure if they have revised the panels over the years. I believe the Metco panels are closer to the originals - they're made overseas and labor/machine costs are much less.




if Metro made convertible rears you could compare but they only made the hardtops .. hence my question on the palcos lol


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Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: azmopar] #1618855
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I'm not sure if they have revised the panels over the years. I believe the Metco panels are closer to the originals - they're made overseas and labor/machine costs are much less.





There's nothing they could do to revise the parts to make them more like originals, the limitations lie within the type of raw material used and the thermo-forming manufacturing process itself.

Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1618856
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trim parts r going to make challenger convertible rear door panels they will be hear in 6 months thanks

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trim parts r going to make challenger convertible rear door panels they will be hear in 6 months thanks



FACT OR RUMOR?

only reason I ask is they only show 4 parts available right now for 70 Challenger


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Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: GardnersGotCudas] #1618858
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trim parts r going to make challenger convertible rear door panels they will be hear in 6 months thanks




Very interesting!

Here's some close-up photos of the Palco rear panels I took out of my '70 Challenger Convertible last year that the previous owner installed. These show the serious problem areas. I don't know if this is a result of the manufacturing process, or just neglect. I really hate them. I ended up buying the Metro door and seat back panels. They are OUTSTANDING. I am hoping that someone, some day makes the convertible rears. I do have a pair of original rears, but they'll need a bit of work before I can put them in the car. I'd gladly pay $$$ for NEW convertible rear panels that are made as good as the Metro panels. IMO - the Palco panels are only acceptable for a "driver" car. However, they fit poorly, and just about everything about them is down right wrong.










Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: Grizzly] #1618859
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Would some of you who are using the palcos please put some photos up?






Heres one.




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ive been looking at these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/70-74-Challenger...d89&vxp=mtr

mine in the car are REAAAAAAALY rough


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Re: anyone ever use palco stuff [Re: azmopar] #1618861
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ive been looking at these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/70-74-Challenger...d89&vxp=mtr

mine in the car are REAAAAAAALY rough




Yup. Palco (aka: Dash Tops). Like I said, They are OK for driver, but that's it.

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