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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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If i go blow through i have to change the regulator,pump,add a return line to the cell, pay to have the carb modded.
From what i've read blow through has it's fair share of problems on the street with it's tuning.
So really, why shouldn't i do draw through?
I have a friend that ran a draw through setup on a 350 nova back in the day and it was very streetableand fun to drive.
I was a metal fabricator, i am now a carpenter of 26 years and my Dad was a mopar mechanic for 36 years i know a little bit about building things from nothing.
Just needed some help picking turbo sizes.
You guy's need to broaden your horizons
Sounds like you've got a firm decision on draw through and have all the resources you need to make it work great. Good luck
Thank you, i'm going to try.
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
[Re: dustergirl340]
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Yeah, I think it's a bit heavier than 2,900 pounds. Our '70 Dart weighs 3,400 without driver.
Turbo project sounds interesting, keep us posted on it.
Holy Crap how much of that POR stuff did you use?
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
[Re: all spooled up]
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my 318 has 10.5 comp turbos spool good at 3000 rpm on the trans brake
Thanks for the info that sounds like a fun ride.
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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05/01/14 03:21 PM
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Yeah, I think it's a bit heavier than 2,900 pounds. Our '70 Dart weighs 3,400 without driver.
Turbo project sounds interesting, keep us posted on it.
Holy Crap how much of that POR stuff did you use?
Have you weighed yours yet... I had a 69 Valiant
that was 2900#... gutted with a mild steel back half..
lots of luck with your project
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
[Re: MNobody]
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So you never answered the question. Aside from being stubborn...why WOULD you want to do a draw through.
Because thats what i'm going to do and i don't see where i'm being stubborn ...
So your answer to why you would do it is, "Because."
That's sort of the definition of stubborn.
stub·born
/ˈstəbərn/
adjective
adjective: stubborn
having or showing dogged determination not to change one's attitude or position on something, especially in spite of good arguments or reasons to do so.
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I've heard all the cons over and over. I'm looking for help doing it my way not yours.
Well the internet is probably the wrong place to be looking then. I suggest you try books... preferably dusty ones with black and white pictures. Only those will have the encouragement that you're looking for doing the right thing with cutting edge technology.
Good luck.
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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05/01/14 03:29 PM
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Yeah, I think it's a bit heavier than 2,900 pounds. Our '70 Dart weighs 3,400 without driver.
Turbo project sounds interesting, keep us posted on it.
Holy Crap how much of that POR stuff did you use?
That a 68 GT? No way it's 2900 unless you've got lots of fiberglass and gutted. Close to 3300 if it hasn't been thoroughly lightened!
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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Yeah, I think it's a bit heavier than 2,900 pounds. Our '70 Dart weighs 3,400 without driver.
Turbo project sounds interesting, keep us posted on it.
Holy Crap how much of that POR stuff did you use?
Have you weighed yours yet... I had a 69 Valiant
that was 2900#... gutted with a mild steel back half..
lots of luck with your project
Thanks, i havn't weighed it and don't care all i know is the piece of crap in it now ain't no fun anymore. Even with all the go fast parts it probably only makes 225 at the crank, not acceptable. And when i go the 360 route it will be costly cause it's getting a stroker kit so i'm just looking to have some fun at my expense before it get's expensive lol. Just planning on picking up some cheap turbos and learning a few things, my reading retention sucks so i learn hands on.
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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Yeah, I think it's a bit heavier than 2,900 pounds. Our '70 Dart weighs 3,400 without driver.
Turbo project sounds interesting, keep us posted on it.
Holy Crap how much of that POR stuff did you use?
Have you weighed yours yet... I had a 69 Valiant
that was 2900#... gutted with a mild steel back half..
lots of luck with your project
Thanks, i havn't weighed it and don't care all i know is the piece of crap in it now ain't no fun anymore. Even with all the go fast parts it probably only makes 225 at the crank, not acceptable. And when i go the 360 route it will be costly cause it's getting a stroker kit so i'm just looking to have some fun at my expense before it get's expensive lol. Just planning on picking up some cheap turbos and learning a few things, my reading retention sucks so i learn hands on.
Where in Mich do you live... I'm starting a TT project
now but a blow through... twin turbo gen 3 hemi
with twin inner coolers for my Rampage
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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05/01/14 06:03 PM
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Can anybody plot the range and trajectory of a carburetor after it goes thru the hood under a 10 PSI of boost backfire?  20 PSI? What would the effect be steel vs 'glass hood, right vs left carb?  Seriously, quickd100 has had some success blowing up a 318 with a draw thru running a single Thermoquad and making the numbers you are looking for and then some. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post8039781Kevin
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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05/01/14 07:14 PM
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Can anybody plot the range and trajectory of a carburetor after it goes thru the hood under a 10 PSI of boost backfire? 20 PSI?
What would the effect be steel vs 'glass hood, right vs left carb?
Seriously, quickd100 has had some success blowing up a 318 with a draw thru running a single Thermoquad and making the numbers you are looking for and then some.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post8039781
Kevin
I found if you use the Mopar factory accelerator cable will keep it from going very far.
Doug
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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05/01/14 07:22 PM
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Yeah, I think it's a bit heavier than 2,900 pounds. Our '70 Dart weighs 3,400 without driver.
Turbo project sounds interesting, keep us posted on it.
Holy Crap how much of that POR stuff did you use?
Have you weighed yours yet... I had a 69 Valiant
that was 2900#... gutted with a mild steel back half..
lots of luck with your project
Thanks, i havn't weighed it and don't care all i know is the piece of crap in it now ain't no fun anymore. Even with all the go fast parts it probably only makes 225 at the crank, not acceptable. And when i go the 360 route it will be costly cause it's getting a stroker kit so i'm just looking to have some fun at my expense before it get's expensive lol. Just planning on picking up some cheap turbos and learning a few things, my reading retention sucks so i learn hands on.
Where in Mich do you live... I'm starting a TT project
now but a blow through... twin turbo gen 3 hemi
with twin inner coolers for my Rampage
Your gonna break that little Rampage lol my brother had one years ago, cool little trucks. I'm over near Jackson.
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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Can anybody plot the range and trajectory of a carburetor after it goes thru the hood under a 10 PSI of boost backfire? 20 PSI?
What would the effect be steel vs 'glass hood, right vs left carb?
Seriously, quickd100 has had some success blowing up a 318 with a draw thru running a single Thermoquad and making the numbers you are looking for and then some.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post8039781
Kevin
I found if you use the Mopar factory accelerator cable will keep it from going very far.
Doug
Thats cheating you got one of them fancy intakes thats made to blow apart.
But fine i get it and i like my bulg hood.
Any suggestions on a decent affordable pump, regulator and any any other stuff i'll need to go Blowthrough? You guys nag more than my wife.
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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05/01/14 08:33 PM
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Can anybody plot the range and trajectory of a carburetor after it goes thru the hood under a 10 PSI of boost backfire? 20 PSI?
What would the effect be steel vs 'glass hood, right vs left carb?
Seriously, quickd100 has had some success blowing up a 318 with a draw thru running a single Thermoquad and making the numbers you are looking for and then some.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post8039781
Kevin
I found if you use the Mopar factory accelerator cable will keep it from going very far.
Doug
Thats cheating you got one of them fancy intakes thats made to blow apart.
But fine i get it and i like my bulg hood.
Any suggestions on a decent affordable pump, regulator and any any other stuff i'll need to go Blowthrough? You guys nag more than my wife.
Seems like cost is a huge factor. Don't know how low buck you could complete a hack job turbo setup because it's not how I operate, but I can tell you if you choose a cast 4.000 crank from Ohio, Scat I beams, and KB hyper pistons that stroker project for the 360 block wouldn't be too pricey granted you've got heads that could support it. By the mention of go fast parts I'm guessing you've got decent cylinder heads, and if you do why did you put them on a short block so low in compression?
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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Can anybody plot the range and trajectory of a carburetor after it goes thru the hood under a 10 PSI of boost backfire? 20 PSI?
What would the effect be steel vs 'glass hood, right vs left carb?
Seriously, quickd100 has had some success blowing up a 318 with a draw thru running a single Thermoquad and making the numbers you are looking for and then some.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post8039781
Kevin
I found if you use the Mopar factory accelerator cable will keep it from going very far.
Doug
Thats cheating you got one of them fancy intakes thats made to blow apart.
But fine i get it and i like my bulg hood.
Any suggestions on a decent affordable pump, regulator and any any other stuff i'll need to go Blowthrough? You guys nag more than my wife.
Seems like cost is a huge factor. Don't know how low buck you could complete a hack job turbo setup because it's not how I operate, but I can tell you if you choose a cast 4.000 crank from Ohio, Scat I beams, and KB hyper pistons that stroker project for the 360 block wouldn't be too pricey granted you've got heads that could support it. By the mention of go fast parts I'm guessing you've got decent cylinder heads, and if you do why did you put them on a short block so low in compression?
Bought it that way. I was told it had 10.1:1 ross pistons in it, wrong. Pistons are .092 in the hole with 72cc chambers in the heads and a .056 thick head gasket 4.060 bore. I've got a whopping .017 piston to valve clearance on the intakes, the heads are 360 j's with 2.02 intake and stock exhaust. They never even swapped out the exhaust seats, they were hammered and the original reason it came apart. The .528 solid cam is the only reason it lives, i shift at 6800 and i've beat the crap outta it with no issues yet....
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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Your gonna break that little Rampage lol my brother had one years ago, cool little trucks. I'm over near Jackson.
Naa...its a moly tube chassis
Now that's cool, and you can throw beer kegs in the back to help with traction 
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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Your gonna break that little Rampage lol my brother had one years ago, cool little trucks. I'm over near Jackson.
Naa...its a moly tube chassis
Does it still have the 4 in it or did you squeeze something else in there?
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Re: Need help picking a turbo plz
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Your gonna break that little Rampage lol my brother had one years ago, cool little trucks. I'm over near Jackson.
Naa...its a moly tube chassis
Does it still have the 4 in it or did you squeeze something else in there?
There isnt any bed in the back... I put a 416 in it..
should run 9.80 - 10.0
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