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4 Vent Fuel Tanks #1610140
04/21/14 01:09 AM
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What is the purpose for 4 Vent Fuel Tanks on my 1974 Plymouth Barracuda?
Any benefits for or against?

Re: 4 Vent Fuel Tanks [Re: Killerinc] #1610141
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What is the purpose for 4 Vent Fuel Tanks on my 1974 Plymouth Barracuda?
Any benefits for or against?




Definitely use them, it insures your tank is vented no matter how full your tank is and if it's out of level. There's no other way to properly vent the tank.

Here's what the inside of your tank looks like.

The four vent lines go to each corner of the tank to insure proper venting even when full.

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wow that's cool seeing inside.
Ok thanks so much, i will use the 4 vent tank.

Re: 4 Vent Fuel Tanks [Re: Killerinc] #1610143
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I've known some guys use a inline fuel or air filter to get rid of that huge tin can in the wheelwell

P.s great photo! I wondered where they went in there

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Actually the Barracuda has something like a long twinkie shaped can right in front of the tank. Nothing in the wheelwell.

Re: 4 Vent Fuel Tanks [Re: Killerinc] #1610145
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Actually the Barracuda has something like a long twinkie shaped can right in front of the tank. Nothing in the wheelwell.




Yes that's right, only 71 did the they use the vapor separator in the trunk. After that they mounted it under the car in the middle.

And they both do the same thing, manifold all four vent tubes into one. Then a line run from it to the front of the car and terminates up on top of the motor. The vent line either goes to the charcoal canister or to the valve cover breather. Or could even be connected to the air cleaner housing.

That way the vent line is higher than the gas tank to prevent gas from leaking out and you will never smell gas fumes in your garage. If you were to use a filter element in the rear connected to a vent, then you will smell gas and it can and will leak out when the tank is full and the temp climbs causing your gas to expand and leak out. It won't ever leak out with the proper vent line ran to the front of the car.
72-74 style.

71 style that mounts in the trunk.

I've rebuilt several fuel systems here lately in the last few years.
Before cleaning.


After media blasting.


Then I use Eastwoods Tank Tone paint on them like in my first picture. I don't remove the old hoses until I'm ready to reinstall, protects the nipples from blasting and keeps the media out of the vapor separator.



Re: 4 Vent Fuel Tanks [Re: Challenger 1] #1610146
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My 72 Imperial has the external vent manifold. The difference I see is that it has one hose that is larger than the others. I'm not sure why they decided to make that tube larger.


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Re: 4 Vent Fuel Tanks [Re: feets] #1610147
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The liquid/vapor separator all part of the sealed evap system. As was said the line going up front either goes to the crankcase thru the breather cap or to a charcoal canister. Its really not a bad system but if you use it you have to run the line up front to the crankcase or a charcal canister or you can smell gas on hot days. I used to get cars from the body shop where the customers complained of gas fumes up front as almost every time it would be a cracked charcaol canister from the front end damage. Dont forget if you run the canister and the closed system its made to work with the sealed press/vacum cap. I dont run the charcoal canisters on my hotrods. But that is a nice tank vent system. Ron

Re: 4 Vent Fuel Tanks [Re: 383man] #1610148
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Are the charcoal canisters repopped? Parts stores or vendors? Or can you adapt something from other vehicles?

You guys said that the line that terminates in the engine bay up on the inner fender should be connected to the charcoal canister. Is there a line that runs from the canister to somewhere else? Or is that the end of it? I have mine connected to my air cleaner with a hokey little setup. I don't have a charcoal canister but would like to install one to help with a fuel smell issue. Pics would be great. Sorry, don't mean to hijack.

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Re: 4 Vent Fuel Tanks [Re: roe] #1610149
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Are the charcoal canisters repopped? Parts stores or vendors? Or can you adapt something from other vehicles?

You guys said that the line that terminates in the engine bay up on the inner fender should be connected to the charcoal canister. Is there a line that runs from the canister to somewhere else? Or is that the end of it? I have mine connected to my air cleaner with a hokey little setup. I don't have a charcoal canister but would like to install one to help with a fuel smell issue. Pics would be great. Sorry, don't mean to hijack.

Thanks,
roe




The charcoal canister is also connected to a vacuum port on the intake manifold to burn the gas fumes out the canister each time the car is started.

I've never seen them reproduced.

I have a couple of them and stuck one back in my car a few years ago instead of leaving it lay on the shelf. Mine is not hooked, just there for looks. I think both of mine are missing the black junk inside or at least some of it spilled out on my shelf.
By connecting the vent line to the crankcase I don't get any fuel smell in my garage and I try to park my cars with full fuel tanks.



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All the canisters I replaced were from the Dealer I worked at. I have not seen them aftermarket but you could always try a place like Auto-Zone or one of them stores to see if they sell any.
The charcoal canister just stores the fuel evap fumes until they are drawn into the intake to be burnt in the cylinders. Most of them have a type of control valve so they dont pull the fumes at the wrong times as most purge the fumes when at cruising speeds. Some of the control valves will use ported vacum to turn on the valve that has manifold vacum to purge it and alot of cars use a solenoid controlled by the PCM to purge the canister. Thats because you dont want it to purge fumes at idle or on decell where it would go rich and could stall. The newer Mopars even have addaptive fuel memory cells that compansate for the fumes when purging. Ron







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