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Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: ProSport] #1608980
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I have been running tunnel rams on engines for more than 30yrs. THEY will almost always make more power! In fact every one that I have done made more. Currently, I have one on a bb with rpm heads and a flat tappet cam running a best of 5.88 at almost 117mph footbraking. I am anxious to see what it does when we transbrake it. that equates to about 750hp. car weighs about 2850

Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: ProSport] #1608981
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Its hard to beat the Weiand street TR with the D shaped ports, I ran a solid tenth & 1.1/2 MPH quicker over an M-1 single & 750 PF carb, & that was with minor tuning on 2 crappy 600 1850 holleys. On top of that, my 60ft. fell off by .03-.04 on the runs from the added torque & lack of a good suspension, plugs were stone white back in the pits.

Ran a 10.87 @ 123.58 on a 1.628 60ft. with TR

Ran a best of 10.98 @ 122.09 on a 1.58 in same air.


75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: AndyF] #1608982
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"I think that is a good tunnel ram so you will probably be hard pressed to beat the power with a single plane intake. But I've run more than few dyno tests where the tunnel ram is a dog. Some of the old school tunnel rams are very weak when compared to a good single plane intake."

I am Currently running the Indy 3X with a Quick fuel 1250 on my 572.It runs pretty good! If I did not have so much invested already I might be tempted to try a tunnel ram but I would want to pick up a lot more than a tenth or so or "The juice would not be worth the squeeze" for me! I do think they look awesome though!

Mike

Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: 70satelliteguy] #1608983
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do you guys think it would be worth putting 750's on instead of the 650's?




Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1608984
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do you guys think it would be worth putting 750's on instead of the 650's?




Yes I do.


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Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: Guitar Jones] #1608985
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Whats the best small block TR non W head that is available.

Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: joes68340s] #1608986
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Great question. The answer could be dependent on the build particulars?
My M1 TR has short-ish looking runners and a lot of plenum.

Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: joes68340s] #1608987
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Whats the best small block TR non W head that is available.




Looks like this works good.

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=154106

I'd PM DJVCUDA, He has alot of know how with TRs on SBs.

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Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: joedust451] #1608988
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I went 2 tenths faster with the tunnel ram over my single 850.

Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: Harley] #1608989
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I went 2 tenths faster with the tunnel ram over my single 850.





Car looks good harley


75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: joedust451] #1608990
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I've had the tunnel ram on for 6 years, haven't tried a single plane or for that matter thought about it.

What kind of 750's should I look at? Holley, quick fuel, pro systems..........




Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1608991
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I've had the tunnel ram on for 6 years, haven't tried a single plane or for that matter thought about it.

What kind of 750's should I look at? Holley, quick fuel, pro systems..........




AED is getting a very reputation lately, might want to give them a call.


75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: joedust451] #1608992
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I went 2 tenths faster with the tunnel ram over my single 850.





Car looks good harley




Thanks Joe.

Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: Harley] #1608993
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What are you guys running for fuel line on these dual carb applications?

I was planning on -10 from tank to pump, -8 from pump to regulator (two port) and -6 to each carb (3/8" hard line to each bowl). Would I be Better off running a four port regulator with -6 to each bowl? Carbs are 4150's and the combo should make 700-750 on pump gas.

Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: Jeremiah] #1608994
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What are you guys running for fuel line on these dual carb applications?

I was planning on -10 from tank to pump, -8 from pump to regulator (two port) and -6 to each carb (3/8" hard line to each bowl). Would I be Better off running a four port regulator with -6 to each bowl? Carbs are 4150's and the combo should make 700-750 on pump gas.




I am running 2 dash 8 lines into my Holley block pump, then dash 8 up to my Holley billet 4 port fuel reg and then 4 dash 6 lines to each fuel bowl.here is a pick of how i got mine set up. lets see if the pic will post.i am no carb person but it sounds like it would be better to me to run a line to each carb bowl. mopar65

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Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: Guitar Jones] #1608995
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One tip I can give you is don't use any power valves.




why do you recommend not to use power valves?


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Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1608996
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I've had the tunnel ram on for 6 years, haven't tried a single plane or for that matter thought about it.

What kind of 750's should I look at? Holley, quick fuel, pro systems..........




My custom built Quickfuel 750's had the wedge shaped tunnel ram floats, the carbs were pretty much dead-on right out of the box, never had to mess with idle or anything once it was set, best carbs I've ever owned.

Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: ProSport] #1608997
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I run -8 braided line from tank to pump. from pump to regulator also -8 braided line. from regulator I run -6 to carbs.

Prosport, did you buy your quickfuel carbs from them or summit, jegs....?

what did they cost?




Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: 79410aspenrt] #1608998
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So is the consensus that something like this won't work for fuel lines?

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Re: tunnel ram vs. single plane [Re: Jeremiah] #1608999
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yes that will work just fine. I used that set up a few years ago on my big block with a 671 blower.




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