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60 FT TIMES #1597727 03/24/14 12:57 PM 03/24/14 12:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish OP master
bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	my car sits high in the back.its got caltrac monos and 9 way shocks.my 60,s are in the low 1.70,s to high sixties.i see cars with less motor doin 1.50,s.383MAN comes to mind.his car runs awsome with less motor.is my rear highth holding me back that much. 8086674-newwheels001.JPG (156 downloads)

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: bonefish] #1597728 03/24/14 01:06 PM 03/24/14 01:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	It sure can... the front has to move farther to get the weight to transfer to the rear... I cant say how much the difference would be.. but most any car will 60' better with a lower rear.. it comes to a point that if its too low the front end will be up in the air too long and may be reading the 60' with the rear tires

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: bonefish] #1597729 03/24/14 01:27 PM 03/24/14 01:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Are the tires actually slipping or spinning? If you are hooking, then most improvements would come through optimizing the converter, gear and carb tune-up. Accelerator pump circuit is critical, especially for a footbrake car. It's always a matched "package" that works together for best performance. Posting more combo info as well as MPH can help determine what kind of HP you are making and what the '60 potential may be. Someone may have a similar combo.

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: Locomotion] #1597730 03/24/14 01:52 PM 03/24/14 01:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish OP master
bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	this combo is 520 ci.alum block.10.2 comp. indy 325 CNC heads prepped by PRH. comp cam [Email]263@50[/Email] in.,269@50 ex.GVL is649-654. 9 in. PTC vert that flashes at around 3800.410 dana,727 mvb.30x12.5 rear tires. 1050 dom.with TTI 2in. headers into 3 in ex. car weighs around 4000 w/me in it.with a 1.7147 60ft it went 99mph. 1/8 mi.i had people watch and they said the tires are not spinning. Last edited by bonefish; 03/24/14 01:55 PM.

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: bonefish] #1597731 03/24/14 02:36 PM 03/24/14 02:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Well your combo looks good. your 1/8 mile 99 mph equates to a sub 10.70 potential. Your right, your 60 ft is way off. Im going to guess its the tune/bog off the starting line or a vert issue. Most likly tune though. Reminds me when I put one of my new combos together. It was a Pig off the line untill I got the tune right, and then it really woke up. Tell us more about your carb and timing setup. Jets squirters pump cams etc.

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: bonefish] #1597732 03/24/14 02:40 PM 03/24/14 02:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,252 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,252 Bend,OR USA	Take some white shoe polish and put a 2 to 3 inch stripe on the tires, both of them, from the edge of the rims straight down to the outside edge of the tires and have someone video a run, do one for each side of the car . Look at those video in slow motion to see what the tires are really doing I can't tell if your rear tires are slicks, street tires, bias ply or radials What are they? Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: bonefish] #1597733 03/24/14 02:42 PM 03/24/14 02:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Can you level out the rear or at least drop it several inches AND have tire clearance? Not only does that look and handle bad but there`s no way a nose heavy car(in my opinion)will leave w/that motors potential............ 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: Thumperdart] #1597734 03/24/14 03:01 PM 03/24/14 03:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	10 flat engine wrapped in a 13 second chassis. It's at least 2 tenths off in 60ft. Post the entire timeslip. I agree with sport440, It's likely multiple issues. Is it getting full throttle? Lower the rear, and maybe put a shorter tire on it. Tune it up. The squirters/cams may be way off. An AF meter with logging comes in real handy here and for down track results. The converter is pretty soft if it's a race oriented build. Have any dyno time on it. I bet it could use more converter. There is a TON of time locked up in front suspensions! IMO, that 520 should blow the tires off at will in a bad chassis.

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: bonefish] #1597735 03/24/14 03:14 PM 03/24/14 03:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I just put my Cal-tracs on so I can't tell you how much better they are, but I'm in the same boat. Was cutting 1.65-1.75 sixty foot, my car was spinning, one guy told me the car was unloading. I went w/ the -1 monos and it still sits about 1/2" higher than the old XHD springs. I keep my front end low but I'm going to raise it 3/4" maybe more. You car seems to have a ton of rake to it. Can you bring the front up some? You might also want to consider 1" lowering blocks in the rear. Did you set the pre-load like the directions state? (bottom out and 1/4 turn) I noticed the butt end raises up as you crank the bars. FWIW my car runs around 11.40@120. I think my 1/8 is in the 7.30ish range. I'm shooting for 11.teens @ 120+. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: bonefish] #1597736 03/24/14 03:36 PM 03/24/14 03:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,490 smyrna,tn D draginmopars pro stock
draginmopars pro stock D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,490 smyrna,tn	Quote: this combo is 520 ci.alum block.10.2 comp. indy 325 CNC heads prepped by PRH. comp cam [Email]263@50[/Email] in.,269@50 ex.GVL is649-654. 9 in. PTC vert that flashes at around 3800.410 dana,727 mvb.30x12.5 rear tires. 1050 dom.with TTI 2in. headers into 3 in ex. car weighs around 4000 w/me in it.with a 1.7147 60ft it went 99mph. 1/8 mi.i had people watch and they said the tires are not spinning. your combo is close to our 68 Satellite we were 1.631 @ 7.382 loosen up the front with 90/10 shocks 1.527 @ 7.353 540 /4500, 4.10 dana/31x14-15 super comp headers also running a 1050 Dominator no major tuning yet only got 4 passes last year on E-85 Ha-Ha Racin Havin Fun 101 Howard 68 "Cummins" Satellite 70 W-2 449 "More Door" Dart 70 340 Dart Swinger, 4spd 71 360 Dart Swinger 72 540/ 518 Dart Swinger 73 airwolf 446/a-500 Cuda 73 "Cummins" Crew cab-car hauler 84 446 Dodge Rampage (tube chassis) 92 CTD 11' flat bed 92 CTD club cab 07 Dodge Caliber

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1597737 03/24/14 03:52 PM 03/24/14 03:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish OP master
bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	carb,50 cc pumps front and rear,35 squirters.jetted 89 square.no PV.tires are MT ET streets.the vert is a little soft but its a street mostly car.the launch doest feel as bad as it shows,i was shocked when i looked at the slip. ide really like to find a 30 in. tire about 9 inces wide and lower this thing down. PS.timming ,20 initial 38 all in by 1200 Last edited by bonefish; 03/24/14 03:55 PM.

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: draginmopars] #1597738 03/24/14 03:54 PM 03/24/14 03:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish OP master
bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	Quote: Quote: this combo is 520 ci.alum block.10.2 comp. indy 325 CNC heads prepped by PRH. comp cam [Email]263@50[/Email] in.,269@50 ex.GVL is649-654. 9 in. PTC vert that flashes at around 3800.410 dana,727 mvb.30x12.5 rear tires. 1050 dom.with TTI 2in. headers into 3 in ex. car weighs around 4000 w/me in it.with a 1.7147 60ft it went 99mph. 1/8 mi.i had people watch and they said the tires are not spinning. your combo is close to our 68 Satellite we were 1.631 @ 7.382 loosen up the front with 90/10 shocks 1.527 @ 7.353 540 /4500, 4.10 dana/31x14-15 super comp headers also running a 1050 Dominator no major tuning yet only got 4 passes last year on E-85 got 90/10,s on the front.

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: bonefish] #1597739 03/24/14 04:04 PM 03/24/14 04:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,490 smyrna,tn D draginmopars pro stock
draginmopars pro stock D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,490 smyrna,tn	got 90/10,s on the front. Yes,but we don't drive it on the street I mention the shocks, maybe you could loosen up the front. we have 6 leafs on the rear Tires are also ET. street we only run this car in the "Street class" at the track only rules are mufflers/street tires registered with tags antique tags Ha-Ha Racin Havin Fun 101 Howard 68 "Cummins" Satellite 70 W-2 449 "More Door" Dart 70 340 Dart Swinger, 4spd 71 360 Dart Swinger 72 540/ 518 Dart Swinger 73 airwolf 446/a-500 Cuda 73 "Cummins" Crew cab-car hauler 84 446 Dodge Rampage (tube chassis) 92 CTD 11' flat bed 92 CTD club cab 07 Dodge Caliber

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: draginmopars] #1597740 03/24/14 04:31 PM 03/24/14 04:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,490 smyrna,tn D draginmopars pro stock
draginmopars pro stock D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,490 smyrna,tn	Bonefish- I notice your location s.w.fl What track would that be We enjoy going to Bradenton plans are to take the Dart and Rampage down there when the car hauler is finished>paint tracks still closed for winter here Ha-Ha Racin Havin Fun 101 Howard 68 "Cummins" Satellite 70 W-2 449 "More Door" Dart 70 340 Dart Swinger, 4spd 71 360 Dart Swinger 72 540/ 518 Dart Swinger 73 airwolf 446/a-500 Cuda 73 "Cummins" Crew cab-car hauler 84 446 Dodge Rampage (tube chassis) 92 CTD 11' flat bed 92 CTD club cab 07 Dodge Caliber

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: draginmopars] #1597741 03/24/14 04:49 PM 03/24/14 04:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Dragin, whats your MPH in the 1/8th with that 7.35 Its not going to be near the 99 MPH like the OP is running. Your 1.52 60 ft. is great for that 7.35 et

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: draginmopars] #1597742 03/24/14 04:50 PM 03/24/14 04:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish OP master
bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	Quote: Bonefish- I notice your location s.w.fl What track would that be We enjoy going to Bradenton plans are to take the Dart and Rampage down there when the car hauler is finished>paint tracks still closed for winter here i love bradenton its a great trak but i usually go to immokalee its only about 30 minutes from my house.

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: Sport440] #1597743 03/24/14 05:11 PM 03/24/14 05:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,490 smyrna,tn D draginmopars pro stock
draginmopars pro stock D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,490 smyrna,tn	Quote: Dragin, whats your MPH in the 1/8th with that 7.35 Its not going to be near the 99 MPH like the OP is running. Your 1.52 60 ft. is great for that 7.35 et here you go not bad for a 4 door, out having "Fun" these are a month apart last year ,oct/nov changes front shocks rear tires (new, same size) and E-85 need to get a A/F meter to see what happened better 60ft- lost top end > 4.41mph 7.35 --- 1.52 --- 89.79 7.38 --- 1.63 --- 93.20 Ha-Ha Racin Havin Fun 101 Howard 68 "Cummins" Satellite 70 W-2 449 "More Door" Dart 70 340 Dart Swinger, 4spd 71 360 Dart Swinger 72 540/ 518 Dart Swinger 73 airwolf 446/a-500 Cuda 73 "Cummins" Crew cab-car hauler 84 446 Dodge Rampage (tube chassis) 92 CTD 11' flat bed 92 CTD club cab 07 Dodge Caliber

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: draginmopars] #1597744 03/24/14 05:35 PM 03/24/14 05:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I put comp eng 90/10 front and 3-way out back and saw no improvement. My best slip so far is a 11.38 @ 119.22 (I have run faster mph but slower et) That run was a 1.607 60, 7.25 1/8 @ 95. And that was before the new slicks and shocks. hoping these things can get me into the 1.50's you guys have MUCH more motor than I have so you might have a harder time hooking.

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1597745 03/24/14 06:07 PM 03/24/14 06:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058 bigfork mn D dragram440 super stock
dragram440 super stock D Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058 bigfork mn	That just seems horrible for that combo. One good thing is there is definately room for improvement! That is a really tall tire for that gear and e.t. I have cheapo shocks and stock leafs and I run 1.48 to 1.49 60'. My guess is a lot of its your converter. I run a coan 8" and it is suprisingly tight on the street and flashes aroud 5000-5200. 67' charger 499 RB 10.57 at 127

Re: 60 FT TIMES [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1597746 03/24/14 06:13 PM 03/24/14 06:13 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,164 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,164 CT	Quote: It sure can... the front has to move farther to get the weight to transfer to the rear... Mr P, not being a wise azz, but what if his front were higher/the car was more level, assuming he still had good front suspension travel? Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

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