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Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Sport440] #1597194
03/24/14 01:42 PM
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I run a Chrysler seven blade fan that does not have a clutch. Seen too many clutch assemblies that had come apart and taken out hoods and various other things even when they were two years old. If you are planning to spin the motor higher than stock I would look at running just the fan. Stock well use a clutch it looks nice if you can see it through the rad or behind the shroud. It all depends on what you do with your car. The cooling system is not just a fan it is a rad, water pump housing, pump, thermostat, antifreeze, fan Shroud, fan belt system and all piece must work together to cool your motor.


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Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Sport440] #1597195
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for reliability I would like to keep the stock fan setup. Question whats the best to buy out there? flexalite? viscous?





There is only one Best Mechanical Fan

That would be the stock Viscous. It moves the air and consumes the Least amount of HP of All the other mechanical fans.

But I did use the Summit black plastic fan on my last build because it was so light. Only to learn later that it was one of the bigger HP consumers of all the other tested fans.

That Fan test is still floating around somewhere here on Moparts.


Twas I that posted it. http://www.network54.com/Forum/215655/message/1066184641/Car+Craft+Cooling+Fan+Dyno+Test

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: forphorty] #1597196
03/25/14 10:38 AM
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for reliability I would like to keep the stock fan setup. Question whats the best to buy out there? flexalite? viscous?





There is only one Best Mechanical Fan

That would be the stock Viscous. It moves the air and consumes the Least amount of HP of All the other mechanical fans.

But I did use the Summit black plastic fan on my last build because it was so light. Only to learn later that it was one of the bigger HP consumers of all the other tested fans.

That Fan test is still floating around somewhere here on Moparts.


Twas I that posted it. http://www.network54.com/Forum/215655/message/1066184641/Car+Craft+Cooling+Fan+Dyno+Test




great article! I wonder how the mopar performance fan would have done...

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Copper Dart] #1597197
03/25/14 10:56 AM
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This would be much more helpful with part numbers and application

what radiator? shroud? and fan blade/clutch combo. thanks


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Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: modelmakerinc] #1597198
03/25/14 01:44 PM
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I use the mopar 5 blade on my charger. I don't have a shroud, never got around to installing one.
I use the jag fan clutch with it on a 22" radiator. Car runs 190*.

I had a flex fan blade break off and shoot right through a fiberglass hood when I was in high school. Been scared of them ever since.

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Sport440] #1597199
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There is only one Best Mechanical Fan

That would be the stock Viscous. It moves the air and consumes the Least amount of HP of All the other mechanical fans.




Yep!

I solved a cooling issue on a 71 Charger by removing the flex fan and installing a thermal clutch and 7 blade fan off an old New Yorker.
They made it from DFW back to Ohio with no issues despite not having a shroud.


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Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Joshs68] #1597200
03/25/14 02:42 PM
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I use the mopar 5 blade on my charger. I don't have a shroud, never got around to installing one.
I use the jag fan clutch with it on a 22" radiator. Car runs 190*.

I had a flex fan blade break off and shoot right through a fiberglass hood when I was in high school. Been scared of them ever since.




....I won't even lean over a fender of ANY vehicle with a flex fan!!!
I recall over 30 years ago, one of my mechanics was setting timing on a '71 Road Runner 383 which the owner had installed a flex fan blade.
Just as he was bringing the RPM up to check total timing, a blade decided to part company...it hit his arm just above the elbow....was a NASTY mess. At least it was only his arm....could of been his head. STAY FAR FAR AWAY from a flex blade!!!

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Joshs68] #1597201
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Joshs68 - i LOVE the stance of that Charger!

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: mikemee1331] #1597202
03/26/14 04:10 AM
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Very interesting info... I'm using the fixed 5-blade fan on my 360.. the fact that SO much horsepower is lost by using that fan (according to the attached article) is MIND blowing to me .. I would have thought 3-5 horsepower .. .NOT 40+ hp!!!!

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Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: cal_gecko] #1597203
03/26/14 05:57 AM
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Seriously thinking about buying an electric fan setup from Summit or something ... I hate the sound of the mechanical fan... and without a shroud, I don't think it's going to keep up with the Sacramento summer ...

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: cal_gecko] #1597204
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So there is no consensus then....

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Commando1] #1597205
03/26/14 10:28 AM
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"But I did use the Summit black plastic fan on my last build because it was so light. Only to learn later that it was one of the bigger HP consumers of all the other tested fans."

I saw the same artical, I might go ahead and pick up a MP unit. I think it was 30hp loss or was that the standard steel 5 blade?

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Copper Dart] #1597206
03/26/14 12:13 PM
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just my
edit: Radiator- Spectra CU332
Fan Clutch- Hayden 2765 (Jaguar)
Fan Shroud-
Fan- 18" (could have easily fit a 19")
Upper Hose- 70624 trim to fit
Lower Hose- 70592 trim to fit




*Updated* Installed in a '70 Swinger.
as soon as I find the Shroud # I will post it.

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Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: cal_gecko] #1597207
03/27/14 02:16 PM
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Seriously thinking about buying an electric fan setup from Summit or something ... I hate the sound of the mechanical fan... and without a shroud, I don't think it's going to keep up with the Sacramento summer ...





Stuff a thermostatic fan in there and you'll be good to go. They make a bit of noise at first start up but they quiet down once the fluid starts moving.

If it'll cool in Texas it'll cool in Sacto.


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Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: feets] #1597208
03/27/14 06:21 PM
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Seriously thinking about buying an electric fan setup from Summit or something ... I hate the sound of the mechanical fan... and without a shroud, I don't think it's going to keep up with the Sacramento summer ...





Stuff a thermostatic fan in there and you'll be good to go. They make a bit of noise at first start up but they quiet down once the fluid starts moving.

If it'll cool in Texas it'll cool in Sacto.




showing my ignorance (it happens frequently).. never heard the term "thermostatic fan" ... searched Summit and narrowed down the results to fans.. got this one .. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g4908/overview/ are you talking about an electric fan?

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: cal_gecko] #1597209
03/27/14 08:25 PM
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No shame in asking questions. I should have said thermal instead of thermostatic.







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Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: feets] #1597210
03/27/14 09:17 PM
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No shame in asking questions. I should have said thermal instead of thermostatic.










Thanks .. so do these cool more effectively than a fixed fan like I have?

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: cal_gecko] #1597211
03/28/14 12:00 AM
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40 hp loss from running a solid fan? Heck if I knew that I would have bought an electric fan instead of a set of edelbrock heads .
Anybody ever test it their self on a dyno or at the track?
I never fully trust magazine articles, they aren't going to tell you your $5 junkyard part is pefectly fine to use, or that the difference is small enough too not worry about.

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Commando1] #1597212
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Go to the junk yard and get a fan out of an 80's Diplomat/New Yorker. Looks just like the fan and clutch that mopar performance sells only cheaper.

Re: best mechanical fan for big block [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #1597213
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Go to the junk yard and get a fan out of an 80's Diplomat/New Yorker. Looks just like the fan and clutch that mopar performance sells only cheaper.



don't know if I've ever seen one of those at a junkyard!

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