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Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel #1593316
03/15/14 02:07 PM
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Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: pittsburghracer] #1593317
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What's the straps on the rear wheels for? That thing that light it lefts the rear end up?


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Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1593318
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they had raised rear lips, like they were to keep the car from rolling backwards. I would be real surprised if the didn't double as scale pads to measure downforce also.

I don't know squat about aero, but it sure seems slick!



It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

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Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1593319
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They had to strap it down to keep it from rolling away in the wind…. Allen forget to set the parking brake.

Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: Duner] #1593320
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That just shows how much corporate effort goes into Pro Stock. What do you suppose the actual cost of wind tunnel testing is per hour???


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Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: Polarapete] #1593321
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I'm surprised they even posted that.


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422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: Polarapete] #1593322
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Quote:

That just shows how much corporate effort goes into Pro Stock. What do you suppose the actual cost of wind tunnel testing is per hour???




In the late 80's I knew the guys who built the IMSA Daytonas. They had a session in Marietta, Ga at the Lockhead/Martin wind tunnel. Even then it was many hundreds of dollars an hour. They spent weeks doing everything they could think of to cut the time in the tunnel to save a buck. They let it slip(brag) they had $1 million to build 2 cars, and were sweating every dollar.


It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: poboyengineering] #1593323
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IF they had time in the wind tunnel at Chrysler it
might get in ALOT cheaper... they had just finished
the new wind tunnel when I retired... they put the
new Challenger in it... thats the first time I seen
the Challenger

Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: pittsburghracer] #1593324
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Quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5DhkTLB2hM




That smoke-trail was sure "lazy" .... maybe 50 mph or so ???

Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: Polarapete] #1593325
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The "A2" tunnel in NC? is approx $450/Hr. It relative low speed and has no floor effects, but you get what you pay far. I'm thinking of approaching a couple of other members who have interest in some tunnel time, with similar cars, and sharing some tunnel time to get the most info on different configurations ans shared knowledge. Looks to me the AJ test might have been just for smoke, wonder with the scoop non functional (as best as i can see from the video) what was learned . I thought it looked pretty clean, but the side flow sure broke up, which I suspect is normal, and I currently have zero tunnel time to back up any of the above.


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Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: jcc] #1593326
03/16/14 12:21 AM
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The video shows the digital readout on the wall...it was reading 140.9 mph @ 1:33 minutes into the vid.


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Re: Allen Johnsons Dart in the wind tunnel [Re: B Dartman] #1593327
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Are the things the car is straped down to measuring downforce? I would assume that is a big part of the testing.


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