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NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" UPDATE #1589787 03/08/14 02:40 AM 03/08/14 02:40 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda OP master
Chris'sBarracuda OP master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	I just received my new T&D B1 rockers and sure enough, they say Comp Cams on them.. Also come in a Comp Cams box from Carson City NV. Instructions have Comp Cams heading.. AND... "THEY" relieved the rockers right where we did and continually break them.. This is why I got new ones (with no relieving) I'm pretty sure Tores's wife passed a year ago or so and he was thinking of selling the company.. Chris.. 8065910-T&D2.jpg (463 downloads) Last edited by Chris'sBarracuda; 05/02/14 09:01 PM.

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589788 03/08/14 03:06 AM 03/08/14 03:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda OP master
Chris'sBarracuda OP master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	Instructions and decals.. Chris.. 8065924-T&D4.jpg (456 downloads)

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589789 03/08/14 07:37 AM 03/08/14 07:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa rebel master
rebel master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa	Thought that was common knowledge that T&D was the same as Comp Cams.

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: rebel] #1589790 03/08/14 08:11 AM 03/08/14 08:11 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda OP master
Chris'sBarracuda OP master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	Quote: Thought that was common knowledge that T&D was the same as Comp Cams. Larry Tores is T&D.. Or was until recently. www.tdmach.com I just bought a set last year and they have as always said T&D.. Both on the rockers and the boxes. Several members on here that I know have purchased last year have T&D marked on everything. Website is still the same but says it's in the process of a new site. We'll see.. Chris..

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589791 03/08/14 10:15 AM 03/08/14 10:15 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,848 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,848 MI, usa	My T&Ds say Comp. T&D used to make individual shaft rockers for Comp was what I was told. Doug

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: dvw] #1589792 03/08/14 02:53 PM 03/08/14 02:53 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas A Adrielp mopar
Adrielp mopar A Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas	Comp Cams pays T and D to make them. I would assume instead shelving two separate sets of the same rocker that T and D just decided to save themselves some money by leaving the Comp Cams decal on. Comp doesn't however make that rocker. Adriel Paradise Substation Design Engineer III

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589793 03/08/14 04:25 PM 03/08/14 04:25 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Hey Chris... I've thought about this for a little while and I find it strange to have Comp's name on T&D's top shelf parts... That would mean you could buy the same rocker from Comp and if so... would it be cheaper or more expensive? 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Jeepmon] #1589794 03/08/14 04:31 PM 03/08/14 04:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas A Adrielp mopar
Adrielp mopar A Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas	That would be correct! Don't know about the cheaper or more expensive part. Adriel Paradise Substation Design Engineer III

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Adrielp] #1589795 03/08/14 04:39 PM 03/08/14 04:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	My small block rocker I bought last July doesn't have anything with comp on them. Rockers or boxes. Hope it's not the case , because I would assume comp would try to make them cheaper. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Adrielp] #1589796 03/08/14 06:47 PM 03/08/14 06:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda OP master
Chris'sBarracuda OP master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	Quote: Comp Cams pays T and D to make them. I would assume instead shelving two separate sets of the same rocker that T and D just decided to save themselves some money by leaving the Comp Cams decal on. Comp doesn't however make that rocker. If that's the case, look up the 8010 rocker kit for a B1 original on Comp Cams site.. Let me know how that works out.. Chris..

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589797 03/08/14 08:51 PM 03/08/14 08:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	I've used and recommended T&D rockers for years but I had an issue with them a little over a year ago. I have two sets of B1 individual shaft rockers. I used blue set and a brand new silver set. A good Friend broke a rocker in his wife's dragster and asked if he could borrow a pair till he could order a new set and some spares. Well after about 6 calls from my Friend calling for numbers, markings, and every other question and 6-8 months I finally got my rockers back. Shouldn't have really been that hard for a company to make up a set of 1.7 ratio rockers and some spares but they acted like they lost the blueprints. I only hope when I go to put my engine back together that they made them right. Kinda scary when you have a brand new set of 1100 dollar rockers on the line. They won't be loaned out again. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1589798 03/08/14 09:13 PM 03/08/14 09:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	at one point comp was selling harland sharp rockers under the comp brand, don't know if that is still the case

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589799 03/08/14 10:28 PM 03/08/14 10:28 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas A Adrielp mopar
Adrielp mopar A Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 577 Arkansas	Quote: Quote: Comp Cams pays T and D to make them. I would assume instead shelving two separate sets of the same rocker that T and D just decided to save themselves some money by leaving the Comp Cams decal on. Comp doesn't however make that rocker. If that's the case, look up the 8010 rocker kit for a B1 original on Comp Cams site.. Let me know how that works out.. Chris.. Chris that was the case as of summer 2011 when I interned there. The plan was to develop a new rocker but it got put back on the shelf as there were more pertinent items to be developed. Me being the only mopar guy, I had to ask about all the racing parts that were available at the time. Of course this didn't apply to every rocker they sold but it did for some. Last edited by Adrielp; 03/08/14 10:38 PM. Adriel Paradise Substation Design Engineer III

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: dvw] #1589800 03/08/14 10:34 PM 03/08/14 10:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda OP master
Chris'sBarracuda OP master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	Quote: My T&Ds say Comp. T&D used to make individual shaft rockers for Comp was what I was told. Doug When did you get yours, from who, and what head.?? Comp lists a 1517 for Indy -1 head that may be made by T&D.. They do NOT list anything for a B1.. I ordered my rockers from T&D.. NOT Comp.. They came from T&D's address.. Chris..

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589801 03/09/14 02:23 AM 03/09/14 02:23 AM
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Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	If you order the T&D Rockers from Indy, they have an Indy engraving on them. I needed one real quick, so I ordered from Indy at 100% markup 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589802 03/09/14 02:28 AM 03/09/14 02:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,848 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,848 MI, usa	Quote: Quote: My T&Ds say Comp. T&D used to make individual shaft rockers for Comp was what I was told. Doug When did you get yours, from who, and what head.?? Comp lists a 1517 for Indy -1 head that may be made by T&D.. They do NOT list anything for a B1.. I ordered my rockers from T&D.. NOT Comp.. They came from T&D's address.. Chris.. Mine are individual shaft for -1. I started looking when I noticed the stands needed to be moved toward the valves. I couldn't figure out why they would be wrong as the stands locate on the original rocker shaft centerline. They are engraved Comp. They were used, at least 5-6 years old. Silver in color. All PN#s on the stands etc are T&D. T&D told me that they made them for Comp, not the other way around. I do know that "Hardcore B's" "T&D stamped" rockers also needed the same move. That's as much as I know. Doug Last edited by dvw; 03/09/14 11:01 AM.

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: dvw] #1589803 03/09/14 02:50 AM 03/09/14 02:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I have TDs on all of my small blocks and they are all TD stuff... yeah the last set I bought has been about 3 to 4 years now but they came from TD with TD on the box and parts... I bought some mounting bolts about 6 months ago and they came from TD...Comp can screw up things in my opinion ... I will assume that TD is making them for a few companies and engraving with any ones name... but the clearancing issue Chris had is now part of it... so is that a Comp print that its built to or is TD changing it I might have to find something else now days... or I hope I have enough spare parts to last me

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1589804 03/10/14 03:26 AM 03/10/14 03:26 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda OP master
Chris'sBarracuda OP master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	Quote: I have TDs on all of my small blocks and they are all TD stuff... yeah the last set I bought has been about 3 to 4 years now but they came from TD with TD on the box and parts... I bought some mounting bolts about 6 months ago and they came from TD...Comp can screw up things in my opinion ... I will assume that TD is making them for a few companies and engraving with any ones name... but the clearancing issue Chris had is now part of it... so is that a Comp print that its built to or is TD changing it I might have to find something else now days... or I hope I have enough spare parts to last me Mike, that is what really bothers me.. I bought new ones thinking they were untouched or clearnced for the valve spring. This is where we have been breaking them. So I've ordered a 1.500 spring instead of a 1.625 and new rockers with no clearancing.. So I thought.. I'm going to call T&D in the a.m. to try to figure this out.. Chris..

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589805 03/12/14 01:12 AM 03/12/14 01:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda OP master
Chris'sBarracuda OP master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	So, I got in touch with T&D today.. It seems that they make the rocker kits for Comp and Indy the 440-1 Indy deal.. But, the intake and exhaust rockers are the same part for the B1 original.. Just different shaft and stands.. They say they only "RELIEVE" when customer requests it.. Funny thing is I "DID NOT" request this and wasn't happy with them throwing a Comp 440-1 kit together with a B1 kit and shaking the box.. We're working on a solution here.. Here's another weird thing I noticed.. Kind of strange how much they look alike.. Chris..

Re: NEW T&D Rockers Say "COMP CAMS" Say What?? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1589806 03/12/14 03:40 AM 03/12/14 03:40 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Yup... it sounds like they;re in bed with each other 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

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