Re: 1970 Challenger R/T Undercoat pictures
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Hamtrack challenger:
Is this are Hamtramck E-body with standard undercoating or OPTIONAL undercoating?
From the pictures it appears to be a standard undercoating car or a lot of the optional undercoating cleaned/removed/worn off.
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T Undercoat pictures
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Does anyone have pictures of what the underside detail of an undercoat optioned car from Hamtrack should look like?
It would much appreciated because when I got this car the undercoating was scraped clean.
 
Just use the Goggle search box at the top of the Moparts page to see Dave W's 70 Challenger...type in "Taking it to the next level" plenty of before/after pics
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T Undercoat pictures
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Wow that 1971 Cuda was drenched in undercoating. My 1971 Challenger that still kind of wears it original paint under the race paint has very little undercoating at all. None on the floor boards at all, and just alittle on the inner fenders. The Challenger was ordered without any extra or normal body undercoating. This was done to make the Challenger even lighter for drag racing. Now my other Challenger that is a convertible that has its original paint under one repaint is a lot like the Cuda in the link with plenty of undercoating. How much you got all depends on who at the factory was spraying the car and if you wanted the coating or not.
1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T Undercoat pictures
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Wow that 1971 Cuda was drenched in undercoating. My 1971 Challenger that still kind of wears it original paint under the race paint has very little undercoating at all. None on the floor boards at all, and just alittle on the inner fenders. The Challenger was ordered without any extra or normal body undercoating. This was done to make the Challenger even lighter for drag racing. Now my other Challenger that is a convertible that has its original paint under one repaint is a lot like the Cuda in the link with plenty of undercoating. How much you got all depends on who at the factory was spraying the car and if you wanted the coating or not.
One has a lot of undercoating because it has optional undercoating. IIRC, it was included with A/C.
There are some variation on the overspray patterns of the std and optional undercoating. But the target areas are very consistant.
Most optional "undercoating" cars I've seen have gas tanks pretty well covered. I've got three undercoating cars and they are completely covered. My 71 Challenger (A/C car) has lots of undercoating on rear sway bar even.
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T Undercoat pictures
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Just think Chassis Dept. If it was assembled in the Chassis Dept. It was not undercoated. Most Chrysler Assembly plants back in the day, (and I have been to a few) the last job done in Trim Dept. was undercoating. Now the body entered Chassis Dept. So engine/trans/mufflers/pipes/ both fuel and brake lines were installed after undercoating. If you see these parts undercoated it was done by the dealer or a private party. On a earlier comment, somebody said their sway bar had undercoating. I would bet my 44 yr. memory this was done after the sale or was a dealer add on. If you notice the E-Body plastic and B-Body inner fender shields have undercoating on them. They were assembled in trim. Also a little tip on B-Bodys, the bolt that holds on the front fender/cowl shields was not on the car prior too or during paint. That fender tab was supposed to be brush painted black. Not saying it happened all the time, but it was supposed to. Hope this helps. 
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T Undercoat pictures
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Just think Chassis Dept.
If it was assembled in the Chassis Dept. It was not undercoated.
Most Chrysler Assembly plants back in the day, (and I have been to a few) the last job done in Trim Dept. was undercoating.
Now the body entered Chassis Dept. So engine/trans/mufflers/pipes/ both fuel and brake lines were installed after undercoating.
If you see these parts undercoated it was done by the dealer or a private party.
On a earlier comment, somebody said their sway bar had undercoating.
I would bet my 44 yr. memory this was done after the sale or was a dealer add on.
If you notice the E-Body plastic and B-Body inner fender shields have undercoating on them. They were assembled in trim.
Also a little tip on B-Bodys, the bolt that holds on the front fender/cowl shields was not on the car prior too or during paint.
That fender tab was supposed to be brush painted black. Not saying it happened all the time, but it was supposed to.
Hope this helps.
I have seen, and have picture, of a 71 Demon LA plant that shows the standard, everycar, undercoating just under the leaf spring hanger. You can see they had something covering the body pad to prevent this, but the mask line must have moved over.
My rear sway bar in my 71 Challenger R/T built at Hamtramck has undercoating on it. It would have been installed before the exhausts and rear suspension, driveshaft, etc.
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T Undercoat pictures
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03/02/14 01:31 AM
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both fuel and brake lines were installed after undercoating.
My T/A had undercoating on both lines. (Hamtramck build)
My '70 Dart has it on both also. (Windsor build)
I have another '70 Hamtramck car headed this way, I will check it once it arrives.
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Re: 1970 Challenger R/T Undercoat pictures
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"After further review, we have a reversal". It seems my memory is not as sharp as it once was. After calling a couple ex co-workers, I now believe the fuel/brake lines had undercoating on them. In Trim, the body was hanging from the carrier and it was easier to install them. In Chassis dept. the car would be moving down the line on a conveyor with its wheels/tires on. Having to fish the lines between the wheels to someone in a pit would have been problematic. Plus I looked at my old pics of cars before resto and it proved what you said. So bottom line, I can't trust my memory.  The feathers sticking out of my mouth are from Black crow. 
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