VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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Did a search on the VP113 and found various responses. Spoke to the VP rep and he said there would still be some gains over the current VP110 I use. Anybody else have any experience with this fuel and would it be a viable candidate on my eddy headed 408?
Thanks Darren
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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Whats the compression and whats your cranking pressure... plus whats the cam... but that much octane sounds real high to me... if its higher than needed it will slow the car up
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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I have a w9 motor with 190 psi cranking compression and run it on pump gas.
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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Cranking pressure 185PSI. Static 11.0:1. I agree that it sounds high, however it seems that others with similar compression seem to have good results. Cam specs 256@.050. .565 lift. Hydraulic roller.
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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It should be worth something once it is jetted for it.The 113 is oxygenated like the q16.
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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Didn't know vp113 was like q16, how much does it cost a gallon?
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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About $600 for a 54 gallon drum
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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Wow....I'm no carb expert, but I do know math. That fuel is a little over 11 bucks per gallon. E85 is about 2.50 per gallon near my house. I have been told that e85 will also pick your car up about a tenth in the 1/4...so 54 gallons of e85 is $135...that is $465 dollars cheaper than the race fuel you spoke of. If you go through more than one drum of that fuel in a year then you would have just paid for a new e85 carb...and then some. Just something to think about.
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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Wow....I'm no carb expert, but I do know math. That fuel is a little over 11 bucks per gallon. E85 is about 2.50 per gallon near my house. I have been told that e85 will also pick your car up about a tenth in the 1/4...so 54 gallons of e85 is $135...that is $465 dollars cheaper than the race fuel you spoke of. If you go through more than one drum of that fuel in a year then you would have just paid for a new e85 carb...and then some. Just something to think about.
e-85 here in Michigan is 2.85.. I use to buy that silly gas (C-16) 493-13.7 comp---E-85
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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Thanks for the input and replies. After talking to 408StrokerDart(Brian Smith) I think I will just stick with Sunoco110/93 mix. I need a dual purpose fuel for my Indy Headed 512 as well as it certainly likes the 110 leaded 93 mix. Hoping to see some improvement in my '60ft by going from a drag radial to a slick.
With the slicks you should see the 60' improve BUT even with your 110/93 mix I'd say your slowing it down... I know your trying to play it safe but if I were you I would start to decrease your 110 mix until you find what it likes... with 11 to 1 I would say its gonna end up with 93 straight for your quickest ET and MPH... at max it might like a small taste of the 110 but I doubt it... I'm at 10.8 but with iron heads on my Rampage and I run it on 87 but I plan on racing it with 93
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Re: VP 113 for an 11.0:1 408 SB
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Thanks Mr.P Body. You may be right however the consistency of pump gas down here in Texas anyway is shaky at best. I can most definitely tell a difference with mixing the 110 and 93 in my 512 as it starts better and doesn't sometimes diesel when you shut it off and overall performance is night and day vs the pump 93.
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