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Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux - UPDATE!! #1579426
02/15/14 10:22 PM
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After all of the critiques and criticisms of my attempt at installing a rack into a stock k-frame, and realizing it wasn't safe, and staring at that thing a million different ways to try to improve it, the best way to improve it was to place it in the dumpster and go back to a tubular k-frame. I needed to design it with no bent tubing components, being that I do not have a tube bender, yet. Here is what I came up with.







Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: STEFF] #1579427
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Nice!

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That's impressive. Now, will it clear an oilpan ???

Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: STEFF] #1579429
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Wow, nice work Steff!

Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: LSP] #1579430
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I bet it will fit with a 6 qt truck rear sump oil pan just fine ???


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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: STEFF] #1579431
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Looks real good Steff... nice and strong... where will
the arms mount.. are you staying with double arms
or going strut
EDIT
Never mind.. I see the tube

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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: STEFF] #1579432
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Looks good. I was just thinking about doing this today. What front suspension??

Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: STEFF] #1579433
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You know what I find most commendable, you took the criticism in Part 1, you studied it, you didn't make excuses, you got back on the horse, and you made it better. not many would/could do that.

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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: jcc] #1579434
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Very very nice looking , wish I were as talented.


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Wish I had half yur talent...Looks awesome. And the best part is, you built it.


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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: Dragula] #1579436
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So, what do you use for front lower ball joints?

Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: jcc] #1579437
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You know what I find most commendable, you took the criticism in Part 1, you studied it, you didn't make excuses, you got back on the horse, and you made it better. not many would/could do that.





I dont know, Still looks very weak to me. She will probably bust on its first outing.







Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: STEFF] #1579438
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How are you mounting the strut arms?

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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: JERICOGTX] #1579439
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Looks good, STEFF. Did you build a jig first, or did you tack everything together under the car? I assume you modeled it out first, to get all your cut lengths and angles?


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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: STEFF] #1579440
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Class work there! Looks to be stout enough to take all the stress you could ever throw at it, including road racing.


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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: gregsdart] #1579441
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Bulletproof for sure.


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sure looks nice but how heavy is it? CM or mild steel?

Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: STEFF] #1579443
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That looks good Steff!

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That looks good Steff!




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Re: Front Steer Rack Conversion - Part Deux [Re: pittsburghracer] #1579445
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It does look good but I see a weak link. With the way forces come into play the top 2x3 and the down leg 2x3 tubes welded joint, I think you would need a gusset. When I did my frame rails I cut the sides and inside face of the angle and then folded it in so the outside face stayed as one continuos piece and welding was only required on three sides. I really like this piece though as I want to give this a go for my car but ended up buying an Alterkation unit.

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