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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1578541 02/14/14 01:44 PM 02/14/14 01:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 474 Alberta, Canada 451Guy mopar
451Guy mopar Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 474 Alberta, Canada	Our home track is IHRA and my car meets all of the requirements to run the speeds and et that I do. However if I travel to an NHRA track then I am no longer legal. I race mainly Super Street/ Hot Rod so I have a throttle stop. If I am at a NHRA track I set it up to run legal both et and mph. This sport is expensive enough never mind having to have duel memberships and have the car certified every two years in two sanctioning bodies. Thanx 451 Guy 512 cu in 71 Demon Super Street Car - NO LONGER - Broke Crank Best ET 9.57 @ 139.96 451 cu in Pump Gas - 71 Demon Super Street Car Best ET 9.99 @ 136.80 512 cu in 69 Charger R/T Best ET 11.39 @ 118.11

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: racerx] #1578542 02/14/14 02:40 PM 02/14/14 02:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: ?....Why we build these type of cars that's capable of going under the 10:00/6:39 et and don't get licenses . Because we can............. Been in the 9`s a few times and never kicked out or even warned. Can`t wait to see what happens when I go 9.60`s.............. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: Thumperdart] #1578543 02/14/14 02:51 PM 02/14/14 02:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Vista, California 6 67Satty pro stock
67Satty pro stock 6 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Vista, California	Didn't Jimmy Addison run without even lap belts in the Silver Bullet?

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: 67Satty] #1578544 02/14/14 02:53 PM 02/14/14 02:53 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Didn't Jimmy Addison run without even lap belts in the Silver Bullet? I always seen him use a lap belt out on Woodward YEARS ago

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: Thumperdart] #1578545 02/14/14 02:57 PM 02/14/14 02:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Saw a guy from Hollywood Fla running a SB stroker on the bottle street green A body turning low 9's at Moroso a number of years back. Car Looked fast, after his second run we drifted over to his pit to check it out, and a track official rode up on his vespa and told the owner the car was not to run anymore 9's or else, as the official drove off,the owner smiled and said, "i guess we'll just have to start runnnig 8's" I also suspect he was capable. Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: jcc] #1578546 02/14/14 03:19 PM 02/14/14 03:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit OUTLAWD top fuel
OUTLAWD top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit	The Plymouth runs 11.30's, but with smaller carb and 3.55s, it will run 11.50's, makes it nicer on the street as well. Although I find myself enjoying the grudge type nights more and more. I find the cars are more interesting, and there is minimal tech. Although seeing cars in the 8's with no roll bar, or guys running 9's without a helmet can be a bit much...haha Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death... 71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts 66 Belv. II - just a streetcar 88 Mustang - turbo LS beater

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: jcc] #1578547 02/14/14 03:31 PM 02/14/14 03:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 290 Norwalk Ohio cudasteve68 enthusiast
cudasteve68 enthusiast Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 290 Norwalk Ohio	I recall spending the night at Norwalk one year on a normal Sat bracket program. Sunday was Buick day. I walked around the lanes & recall a black G.N. with a Blue & White lic. plate with holes drilled in it that looked like it was for a chute mount at one time. All stock inside & out with a 9" or so slick. I am thicking maybe 12.50's........ The driver jumps in with shorts on & no helment, I missed me guess by about 4 seconds as he clicked off a mid 8 sec pass. It was "T"-Top car, when that thing left the line I thought the tops were going to blow out of it. He came back up for a second pass later on and was ment by about 5-6 track personal demanding to just head up the broken car road and back to the pits......... No question in my mind it was street racer from up North. That is a extrem case by far, but keep in mind when you run stuff like this you are also risking not only your life, but the other lane as well. I unfortantly was at Norwalk on Weds night when a bike and car were making a pass at the same time. The bike crashed and was run over by the car. They landed life flight on the track......

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: cudasteve68] #1578548 02/14/14 04:08 PM 02/14/14 04:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	Me. I have had the visit from the tech guy on the scooter. I need a sticker, net, and license. He let me keep running when he seen I had a multi layer firesuit and plenty of cage. He even said I did a heck of the job on the cage. None of them could tell it had the A- piller bars and knee bar.

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: FastmOp] #1578549 02/14/14 05:49 PM 02/14/14 05:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 860 lancaster,california johnnycuda super stock
johnnycuda super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 860 lancaster,california	Back when I had my Cuda still in primer and with a 440 in it,with the same top end I now have on my 499,and the roll bar rule was 11.99, I would drive it to the track on ET Streets,full length exhaust and ran 11.20's at 119 leaving at 1800. The best pass was 11.27 on the first time out and figured I should be able to tune a couple tenths into it. I told my friends if I could get it to go 10.99 on the motor, I was turning on the bottle and shooting for a 9.99,but on the third outing a local driver of a 12second/full cage having bracket car,ratted me out to Bernie yelling he has no bar, he has no bar,going to fast. So Bernie intercepted me after a 11.21 pass on the way back to the pits,stuck his head in the window and asked wheres the bar, wheres the harness and jacket?,I said I didn't have any of those and he said thats why you're spectating the rest of the night. I tried to get him to let me make a couple 1/8 mile passes..which would've been on the bottle,, but said no as he just threw a guy out for going 11.80 and didn't think it would be fair. So installed a 6point in it a couple months later. 1970 'Cuda,Lime Light,499 Indy S/R's 10.70's @125,street driven ALOT! 1966 Barracuda 360,now a 5spd,Hemi Orange,Hot Rod Air, New daily driver-2003 Ram 2500 Cummins 5.9 '69 Valiant 2-dr, sleeper! New project---1938 Dodge truck, plan is a 360 with a A500, AC, Calvert rear susp., rack and pinion front with coils.

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: johnnycuda] #1578550 02/14/14 06:58 PM 02/14/14 06:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,163 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,163 CT	Quote: Back when I had my Cuda still in primer and with a 440 in it,with the same top end I now have on my 499,and the roll bar rule was 11.99, I would drive it to the track on ET Streets,full length exhaust and ran 11.20's at 119 leaving at 1800. The best pass was 11.27 on the first time out and figured I should be able to tune a couple tenths into it. I told my friends if I could get it to go 10.99 on the motor, I was turning on the bottle and shooting for a 9.99,but on the third outing a local driver of a 12second/full cage having bracket car,ratted me out to Bernie yelling he has no bar, he has no bar,going to fast. So Bernie intercepted me after a 11.21 pass on the way back to the pits,stuck his head in the window and asked wheres the bar, wheres the harness and jacket?,I said I didn't have any of those and he said thats why you're spectating the rest of the night. I tried to get him to let me make a couple 1/8 mile passes..which would've been on the bottle,, but said no as he just threw a guy out for going 11.80 and didn't think it would be fair. So installed a 6point in it a couple months later. Sounds strong for a stock stroke 440, tell us more about it. I'm hoping my car doesn't pass tech, will find out when the weather gets nice how fast it really is. I should be close either way Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: GTX MATT] #1578551 02/14/14 07:20 PM 02/14/14 07:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 258 Stockholm, Sweden T TomsCharger70 enthusiast
TomsCharger70 enthusiast T Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 258 Stockholm, Sweden	1970 Charger, no bar, best run so far 10.74@125Mph. Engine/Car has more left in it, should be able to get it to run sub 10.5 N/A. Car is getting a 8.50 CM cage as I am writing this, so car will be legal this season. /Tom

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: GTX MATT] #1578552 02/14/14 08:08 PM 02/14/14 08:08 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 860 lancaster,california johnnycuda super stock
johnnycuda super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 860 lancaster,california	The 440 was .055 over,about 10.6 to 1,had a Indy solid flat tappet cam,.601/.608 if I remember right,Indy SR heads ported,flowed 325cfm @.650 lift,2.19/1.88 valves,Indy single plane with a 950HP Holley,2" primary/3.5" collector headers,all MSD ignition,ProTrans 727 with too tight of a converter,only footbraked like 2200,4.56's with a 28x12.50 ET Streets,SS springs,car weighed 3570 with me in it.It would only cut 1.61/1.62 60ft times, had full length with the Cuda tips out the back with Flowmaster Top Ten Shootout 3.5" mufflers with 3" pipe. I loved that motor,ran 11.27-11.35 for 6 years, and all I ever did was change oil,adjust the valves maybe twice a year and drove it all over our area. Quote: Quote: Back when I had my Cuda still in primer and with a 440 in it,with the same top end I now have on my 499,and the roll bar rule was 11.99, I would drive it to the track on ET Streets,full length exhaust and ran 11.20's at 119 leaving at 1800. The best pass was 11.27 on the first time out and figured I should be able to tune a couple tenths into it. I told my friends if I could get it to go 10.99 on the motor, I was turning on the bottle and shooting for a 9.99,but on the third outing a local driver of a 12second/full cage having bracket car,ratted me out to Bernie yelling he has no bar, he has no bar,going to fast. So Bernie intercepted me after a 11.21 pass on the way back to the pits,stuck his head in the window and asked wheres the bar, wheres the harness and jacket?,I said I didn't have any of those and he said thats why you're spectating the rest of the night. I tried to get him to let me make a couple 1/8 mile passes..which would've been on the bottle,, but said no as he just threw a guy out for going 11.80 and didn't think it would be fair. So installed a 6point in it a couple months later. Sounds strong for a stock stroke 440, tell us more about it. I'm hoping my car doesn't pass tech, will find out when the weather gets nice how fast it really is. I should be close either way 1970 'Cuda,Lime Light,499 Indy S/R's 10.70's @125,street driven ALOT! 1966 Barracuda 360,now a 5spd,Hemi Orange,Hot Rod Air, New daily driver-2003 Ram 2500 Cummins 5.9 '69 Valiant 2-dr, sleeper! New project---1938 Dodge truck, plan is a 360 with a A500, AC, Calvert rear susp., rack and pinion front with coils.

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: cudasteve68] #1578553 02/14/14 08:09 PM 02/14/14 08:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit OUTLAWD top fuel
OUTLAWD top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit	Quote: I unfortantly was at Norwalk on Weds night when a bike and car were making a pass at the same time. The bike crashed and was run over by the car. They landed life flight on the track...... Always makes me uneasy when tracks let bikes run with cars... Atco never allowed it, so I was surprised when I was at Bandi and they waved me up to line up with a car....I told them I'd wait...too much can go wrong Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death... 71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts 66 Belv. II - just a streetcar 88 Mustang - turbo LS beater

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: OUTLAWD] #1578554 02/14/14 08:29 PM 02/14/14 08:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,838 Central Missouri Fort Leonard... mopar65 master
mopar65 master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,838 Central Missouri Fort Leonard...	My dart has been as fast as 10.49 at 125 in the 1/4 with no cage or roll bar.But i wear a race jacket, helmet and just the lap belt out of a 5 point harness.I really didn't think the car was going to be that fast that weekend. Its another pump gas stoke stroke 440. 3520 pound race ready 1973 Street/Strip Dodge Dart - Stock stroke 440/727 10.49 @ 125.0 on 93 pump gas & ET Street Radials. More to come... ( SGT Miller) Proudly served 12 years in the US ARMY RESERVES support our troops

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: mopar65] #1578555 02/14/14 09:37 PM 02/14/14 09:37 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,267 North, Alabama D-50 pro stock
D-50 pro stock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,267 North, Alabama	One of our local tracks posted on their facebook page that they would be NHRA sanctioned this Year. Their facebook page blew up with people saying that they would not race there if they started checking the cars.Some body posted and said do not worry about it that nothing was changing on that part. 1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: D-50] #1578556 02/14/14 09:45 PM 02/14/14 09:45 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,184 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,184 PA.	My son installed the 360 he built 2 years ago and installed it in his street legal Duster and had no idea how fast it would go so he disconnected the back barrels on his 750 carb and wire tied them shut. He took it testing and at the end of the day they gave him permission to make one pass with the four barrel hooked up. It ran a 10.60 on that pass and then quickly wired it closed again and added 300 pounds to the car. It is now legal as he added a roll bar and is happily in the 10.50's 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1578557 02/14/14 10:05 PM 02/14/14 10:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,569 Motor City 6 6PKRTSE master
6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,569 Motor City	I have had several sleepers in the past but actually over built my challenger so far with safety in mind with the 7.50 cert c.m. cage. Won't be going that fast at first due to budget. 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: 451Guy] #1578558 02/15/14 01:02 PM 02/15/14 01:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH OP Taking time off to work on my car
BradH OP Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	I brought this up playing "What if...?" w/ the updated engine. Odds are good that it WON'T pick up a full .5 in ET to drop from the previous 10.5s (where it's currently legal to run) into the 9.XXs, but if the Horsepower Gods smile on me (and possible future updates squeak out a little more here and there), I suppose it could happen.

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1578559 02/15/14 03:31 PM 02/15/14 03:31 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky S sdaurity pro stock
sdaurity pro stock S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,238 North Cackilacky	Went 9.20 in a freinds car a few months back with no cage. One day I will have something cool here.

Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for? [Re: sdaurity] #1578560 02/15/14 07:28 PM 02/15/14 07:28 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	The guy that does my porting work had a 65 plymouth ht that would run 5.80 5.90's without a trace of a bar in the car. After he would make a pass sometimes you would have to help him get the drivers door open. He did have a helmet and jacket. Another car around here was a 67-68 mustang coupe with a stick and Cleveland small block, no roll bar. He went to the fun ford event here and ran a low 9. They escorted him off the property. Both of these cars were run around here 15 years ago. The mustang was a street racer that was driven to the event probably 30 miles. The plymouth was raced mostly on Friday nights at a local track grudge racing. Both had nos. not sure what the mustang had but the plymouth had two plates. He launched the car with one plate and hit the second plate down track. Pretty sure all the tracks are stricter these days. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

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