Re: Let the Hemi swap begin
[Re: Moparmal]
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11/16/14 10:32 PM
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Reason I asked is I missunderstood your earlier comment about the biscuit mount.
So did u use the TTI adapter mount brackets?. -,most everyone who uses them has had grief......
I used TTI mounting brackets with a stock biscuit rubber mount on the passengers side and a solid Moroso mount on the drivers side. I was fortunate and they didn't cause me any issues.
I had my engine on the hoist and bolted in the chassis in under 30 mins.
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin
[Re: AlexP]
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11/17/14 02:19 AM
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Reason I asked is I missunderstood your earlier comment about the biscuit mount.
So did u use the TTI adapter mount brackets?. -,most everyone who uses them has had grief......
I used TTI mounting brackets with a stock biscuit rubber mount on the passengers side and a solid Moroso mount on the drivers side. I was fortunate and they didn't cause me any issues.
I had my engine on the hoist and bolted in the chassis in under 30 mins.
Makes me wonder if the adapters were configured on a B Body K frame....that might account for why the A Body guys have issues...
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin
[Re: Uhcoog1]
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11/17/14 08:36 PM
11/17/14 08:36 PM
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Please stop trying to make every 3rd gen Hemi thread about your grievance against TTI.
I think you read my mind as I was reading the updates on this thread.
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin
[Re: Uhcoog1]
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11/18/14 02:10 AM
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That's some pretty unfair accusations Wade...and if its because you're trying to keep the thread OT....its NOT the way to do it. I don't want to ruin this thread....but think on this: 1......I didnt use TTI headers so why should I care 2.... The "other thread" was all about conversion issues.....so where's the crime? 3. .....My comment on this post is all about research...not bagging out TTI..so be cool! Just trying to find out why they work for some and not others. I noted that Alex didn't use the TTI drivers side adapter.....perhaps if he had...we could have discussed it further.... What DOES get my back up is the sense of disbelief I get whenever I post about the damn mounts.....there seems to be a bit of "It didn't happen to me.... so it doesn't happen" bs attitude going on...... Edited a couple of times to keep it brief...
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin
[Re: Uhcoog1]
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11/18/14 07:33 AM
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That's the milodon peice for the dipstick and it's just the normal pan. 7 quarts? Weve determined that the road race pan probably isn't needed for what I want to do, even with sticky tires.
31000 listed as 6 quart. I run up to 7-ish. I log oil pressures and haven't had an oil pressure drop.
The 31003 RR pan is listed as 7 quart.
Moving on ....
What do you spin yours up to Wade...I'm wondering if mine will be OK to 7100 without an accumulator......
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin
[Re: Moparmal]
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11/18/14 09:13 AM
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That's the milodon peice for the dipstick and it's just the normal pan. 7 quarts? Weve determined that the road race pan probably isn't needed for what I want to do, even with sticky tires.
31000 listed as 6 quart. I run up to 7-ish. I log oil pressures and haven't had an oil pressure drop.
The 31003 RR pan is listed as 7 quart.
Moving on ....
What do you spin yours up to Wade...I'm wondering if mine will be OK to 7100 without an accumulator......
I spun the forged 5.7 to 7,000+. With accumulator. 10+ seconds at 7,000+ WOT.
I didn't spin the 6.1 over 6500. That was being overly cautious.
I would recommend an accumulator. Cheap insurance. Hemi Joe ran his dry early on at the track if I remember correctly- in the 7500 rpm range maybe?
The modern Mopar thread we had on oiling had more info on the subject, including that the drag pak guys run 11.5 quarts between their pan (8 qt) and accumulator (3 qt). Without the accumulator they were running dry at high rpm. With the accumulator they're turning 8,300-8,500.
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin
[Re: AlexP]
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11/18/14 02:25 PM
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Mal, I'm using the TTI motor mounts. I'm also using the factory style insulators, but one side is a Moroso solid mount. That is the the only exception.
That has nothing to do wth the Hemi. I would use the same factory insilator and Moroso mount with any SB or BB
Mal,
Please look at both of these pictures.
The first one shows a factory rubber insulator mount with the "nub" on it. That's what caused me grief on the passengers side. You can clearly see it attached to the black TTI plate.
On the drivers side, take note of the silver mount with the pass through bolt holes. That is a solid Moroso mount that fits SB/BB for this style of engine mount. It was my alternative to running expensive engine mounts. It did not impair my install at all.
The TTI mounts are excellent in my opinion. For my application they were as good or better than my factory BB pieces.
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin
[Re: AlexP]
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11/18/14 11:09 PM
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1st - Thx Uhcoog for the advice - looks like an accumulator for me...especially if I go to 4.11s Next - Alex/Wade.....You arent gonna believe this...... ......wait for it...... I have the left side (Ur drivers side) adapter mounted HORIZONTAL to the block.....not vertical like yours!!!! Can they be be attached either way? What gives???? LOL!!!.... .. (Other than Im an idiot I mean? )
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin *DELETED*
[Re: Moparmal]
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11/19/14 04:35 AM
11/19/14 04:35 AM
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You have an A body mate.
Last edited by 72Swinger; 11/19/14 05:02 AM.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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