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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577419
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Sweet Alex! I just got done file fitting my rings!


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: 72Swinger] #1577420
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Sweet Alex! I just got done file fitting my rings!




Did he give you a reason as to why it took two months to get rings?


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577421
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He was busier than a 3 pecker'd Billygoat. He was like 23 engines behind at one point. That and when I ordered them his computer was down so I paypal'd him through his in-laws account and it got lost in the shuffle and his wife didnt even know about it until about 2 weeks ago. I'm over it.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577422
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It's done..well kinda..

The details:

-Chamber size went from 65 to 68 cc with the polished chambers
-I should have about .030-.040 quench based on the fact that this is a zero deck motor.
-11.2:1 static, 9.0:1 Dynamic compression.
-Based on what the cylinder head builder thinks 1.5hp/ci is possible. So maybe about 550crank hp. No telling what it will actually do. I've see 450rwhp from a similar build with less compression, cam and an auto transmission. I've got more going for me in regards to all of that.

The only change I see coming is a gasket match on the intake manifold and basic clean up of casting imperfections. I'll open it up for a 90-92mm throttle body at the same time.

This weekend, my good friend uhcoog1 (wade) is going to let me dress the motor at his place. We should have it ready to drop into the chassis in about a week or two.



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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577423
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Super excited to get this done and running in your RR! This is gonna be fun.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: Uhcoog1] #1577424
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can't wait to hear some more feedback on the MS unit. My dad is doing a 69 GTX and wants to go new hemi. I can't see paying $2600 for a harness and ecu. So I think we are going MS


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: haddixj] #1577425
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I'm excited to see how this goes as well. Hurry up!

Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1577426
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Alex dressed it out yesterday. Looks great!!

He's gotta get some random small parts and some offset dowels to correct the bellhousing runout. Then it's pretty much time to put her in!


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: Uhcoog1] #1577427
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Geting there...Bellhousing during indexing..

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577428
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The crankcase once I realized that the oil pump stud was in the wrong place. Thankfully my engine builder was nice enough to answer my call on a Saturday!

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577429
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Truck Pan gasket.. Both Wade and I agree that the factory style o-ringed piece is far better than the cork gaskets used with the Milodon.

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577430
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Milodon Pan in place.

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577431
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Almost done. Just bits and pieces from here.

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577432
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What dipstick is that? Looks sweet.


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Milodon Pan in place.



Is that the 31003 road race pan?


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: 72Swinger] #1577434
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That's the milodon peice for the dipstick and it's just the normal pan. 7 quarts? Weve determined that the road race pan probably isn't needed for what I want to do, even with sticky tires.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577435
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That's the milodon peice for the dipstick and it's just the normal pan. 7 quarts? Weve determined that the road race pan probably isn't needed for what I want to do, even with sticky tires.




31000 listed as 6 quart. I run up to 7-ish. I log oil pressures and haven't had an oil pressure drop.

The 31003 RR pan is listed as 7 quart.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: Uhcoog1] #1577436
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On order:

RobbMC alignment dowels
Valve cover bolts
Mds plugs and bolts
Bolt for idler pulley
Idler pulley
Thermostat gasket
Crank sensor

Once all of that is on, all we need to do is clearance my my oil filter adapter, bell housing and motor mounts (Minor grinding on all) and i can set it in the car. It will be weather tight and ready for the transmission.

That reminds me, I need to cut the input shaft a bit lol.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577437
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Today we notched the bell housing for the headers and indexed the bellhousing. Got it down to .0035. That's a fantastic runout number, and I'm expecting to avoid future transmission problems because of this little bit of effort.

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577438
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And I hard to notch the passengers side of the bellhousing for the headers. No surprise.

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