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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577399
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Exhaust port

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577400
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Overall of chambers

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577401
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Another close up.

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577402
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Looking down into intake port

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577403
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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577404
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Overall of head deck down.

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577405
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Overall of head deck down.




Looking good!

Remind me what spring you've got? And ya'll had to shim it? stock valves, yes? What are the valve sizes? I forget.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: Uhcoog1] #1577406
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Wish mine were done, yours look nice.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: Uhcoog1] #1577407
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Overall of head deck down.




Looking good!

Remind me what spring you've got? And ya'll had to shim it? stock valves, yes? What are the valve sizes? I forget.






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The Eagle Hemi cylinder head arrived in 2009 with VVT on non-SRT Dodge passenger cars and trucks. As with the early head, the Eagle uses rocker shafts and 1.65:1 ratio rockers, but there are big differences in the size and shape of the intake port and the rest of the valvetrain. The Eagle uses 2.05-inch intake and 1.55-inch exhaust valves that are not only larger, they are also longer than standard. The rocker support is taller, and the valve-guide support boss sits higher on the top side of the head, moving it out of the intake port. The Eagle uses a larger square port like the 6.1L that flows a massive 331 cfm right out of the box.

5.7L Eagle Flow Chart*


Lift Intake CFM** Exhaust CFM** I/E Percentage
0.100 82 45 55
0.200 175 110 63
0.300 243 160 66
0.400 300 180 60
0.500 323 181 56
0.600 331 183 55
0.650 331 186 56


*Flow testing performed by Dave Weber at Modern Muscle Performance using a 4.060 bore plate, no exhaust flow pipe on a Superflow 1020 flow bench at 28 inches test depression



Read more: http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_1210_inside_the_g3_hemi_cylinder_head/#ixzz2ue0kk94V




I'm trying to fnd my notes on the shim/install height. Stock valves were more that enough for what I needed.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577408
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Back from the dead!

I'm getting my engine back shortly. It took forever, but it was a really cheap job done by a friend and I was very slow about pushing.

I'll have a refreshed 6.1 shortblock ready for mockup on a stand shortly. Everything is ready minus the inevitable few missing bolts here and there. I feel that I can have a dressed longblock within about two weeks.

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Back from the dead!

I'm getting my engine back shortly. It took forever, but it was a really cheap job done by a friend and I was very slow about pushing.

I'll have a refreshed 6.1 shortblock ready for mockup on a stand shortly. Everything is ready minus the inevitable few missing bolts here and there. I feel that I can have a dressed longblock within about two weeks.




Wow...that sound as deadlines go wooshing by!



We're assembling the shortblock this weekend lol.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577410
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Also, I hate my taxi cab dash. It's never worked and when I went with Painless wiring in the car I never even bothered hooking it up. I was about to wire a bunch of auxillary gauges to keep tabs on things, but I'm not doing that any longer.




Dakota Digital has come out with a very nice 68-70 Charger/70 Road Runner unit that you might look at. Priced around a grand, its the same price you'd pay to restore a stock unit but comes with all new guts and multiple system input capability.

http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/p...prod/prd939.htm

Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: TC@HP2] #1577411
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Also, I hate my taxi cab dash. It's never worked and when I went with Painless wiring in the car I never even bothered hooking it up. I was about to wire a bunch of auxillary gauges to keep tabs on things, but I'm not doing that any longer.




Dakota Digital has come out with a very nice 68-70 Charger/70 Road Runner unit that you might look at. Priced around a grand, its the same price you'd pay to restore a stock unit but comes with all new guts and multiple system input capability.

http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/p...prod/prd939.htm




That's pretty cool! I think this will be getting ordered next week. I was in the middle of customizing a panel to put gauges in, but there is something to be said if you leave the dash looking clean and original.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: TC@HP2] #1577412
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Also, I hate my taxi cab dash. It's never worked and when I went with Painless wiring in the car I never even bothered hooking it up. I was about to wire a bunch of auxillary gauges to keep tabs on things, but I'm not doing that any longer.




Dakota Digital has come out with a very nice 68-70 Charger/70 Road Runner unit that you might look at. Priced around a grand, its the same price you'd pay to restore a stock unit but comes with all new guts and multiple system input capability.

http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/p...prod/prd939.htm





I really like that...finally something worth cutting up my dash over!

On a slightly less than ideal note, my crankshaft tone ring is a no-go. Time to find another one in a hurry. Thanks to Mike @ OST dyno for rushing to help me out...but time to keep looking.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577413
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This is partially a rant and partially a PSA.

Most people pull apart 6.1 hemis and add a 4.080 crank to make a 426. Up until just recently, you had to carry over your crank toner ring from the forged 6.1 crank and put it on the new stroker piece. That leaves a 6.1 crank without a ring or bolts, and basically creates a paperweight.


So I had several 6.1 cranks to pick from and the one that I ended up sending out to use on by 6.1 was missing a ring. I thought no big deal...I've got others. Well none of my cranks had the ring. So I was up a creek come last thursday. Engine was ready to be assembled and we couldn't do a thing without it. I started calling...

13 calls later, I ended up with only two helpful people. Mike @ OST who took my call on Saturday and was very helpful. He went to his shop on a sunday and pulled a ring from a 6.1 crank. Unfortunately it was damaged and the teeth were dinged up. No go, the only way to replace the ring is to pull the crank and I couldn't take that risk. He was more than polite, and we parted ways.

The other shining star is Tom Molnar of Molnar Cranks. Top notch guy. He is the ONLY vendor out of 5 that I left a message with to return my call. The owner of the company of all people. We had a long conversation and he sold me his aftermarket ring to use. $60 plus shipping and I was very happy. He saw the problem created by mopar wanting to sell you the ring as part of a $800 crankshaft (only specific to forged 6.1 cranks) and adapted his own version. Its on the way here now.

So if you end up like me with a damaged or lost tone ring, you're not out of luck.

Molnar sells a 24 tooth 6.1 ring that they produce in house. Only difference is that is use a different style of head on the bolt.

I've also just recently found that mopar sells a bunch of parts for the drag packs. Mopar PN P5155041 I cant confirm that it comes with bolts, but if Molnar didn't have what I needed, I'd order this one.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Mopar-Performance/312/P5155041/10002/-1?parentProductId=


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577414
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My Manley 4.05 crank came with reluctor wheel installed. So I do have a 6.1 crank AND ring still married. I would've sold the whole shebang to ya though.


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I would have created and other crank with no ring either which way. This works out well.

If I get it in the mail before this weekend, I will actually make progress on all of this.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: 72Swinger] #1577416
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My Manley 4.05 crank came with reluctor wheel installed. So I do have a 6.1 crank AND ring still married. I would've sold the whole shebang to ya though.




Out of curiosity, how well did the Manley crank balance out?


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577417
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DOnt know yet, been waiting on Andy for 2 months to get my rings....word on the street though is that they balance really good with everything else being Manley as well.

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Motor is done!

Now to start completing the long block and find out what I'm missing.


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