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Alternator Brands #1577234 02/11/14 01:55 PM 02/11/14 01:55 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,356 Kentucky D dfsmopars OP top fuel
dfsmopars OP top fuel D Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,356 Kentucky	Is a Powermaster alternator at $129 that much better than a $55 parts house alternator? This is for a street driven muscle car. ‘72 Charger, 5.9 Magnum, Tremec 5 spd., Pro-Touring ‘14 Big Horn, Quad Cab, 4x4, 1500

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: dfsmopars] #1577235 02/11/14 03:42 PM 02/11/14 03:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,091 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,091 Niles , Ohio	Ive used both.I replaced hundreds at the shop and most were remans.Back years ago they didnt rebuild them.They just usually replaced a few bad parts.Todays remans are as good as new.Ive probally had one or two that were bad.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: therocks] #1577236 02/11/14 07:10 PM 02/11/14 07:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	And I had a NAPA rebuilt alternator that burst into flames less than 5000 miles old. I've also had three Advance Auto alternators that were dead right out of the box. I think that any commercial remanufactured alternator is suspect. Didn't used to be that way, but times change. Too bad that the private shop I used was eliminated by urban renewal! Now yuppies live in lofts in the same space that used to rebuild with a guarantee for $20.00. Bummer. R.

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: dfsmopars] #1577237 02/11/14 08:18 PM 02/11/14 08:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	the reliability prob aside if the Powermaster puts out more amps (Which I would assume it does) than ours' and for sure I'd want it if it puts out more amps at idle/low RPM's which is the main problem with ours' unless it is a 1 wire which just me I dont care for. I've only purchased a few remans & no problems but you read about alot of comebacks. I'd start with the 85 (iirc) M body OE alt that is 78 amps live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: dogdays] #1577238 02/11/14 10:59 PM 02/11/14 10:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,091 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,091 Niles , Ohio	Even new ones can be bad.We quit using NAPA because we had problems with some.Mostly at the shop I used Advanced.I know for sure in 30 years I installed hundreds if not thousands.Only had a few bad ones.When I fisrt started we rebuilt them at the shop.Then the prices dropped so much it was cheaper to buy them. Rocky Last edited by therocks; 02/11/14 11:01 PM. Chrysler Firepower

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: therocks] #1577239 02/11/14 11:13 PM 02/11/14 11:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: Even new ones can be bad.We quit using NAPA because we had problems with some.Mostly at the shop I used Advanced.I know for sure in 30 years I installed hundreds if not thousands.Only had a few bad ones.When I fisrt started we rebuilt them at the shop.Then the prices dropped so much it was cheaper to buy them. Rocky You know, the cost of rebuilding an alternator yourself is not too bad and then you KNOW what was done. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: Supercuda] #1577240 02/11/14 11:17 PM 02/11/14 11:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,091 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,091 Niles , Ohio	The cost is still pricey.Then try telling a customer you want 65 bucks an hour at the time to rebuild one.Even when I was doing them all the time it was about 45 minutes to an hour.Then add R&R and parts.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: dfsmopars] #1577241 02/11/14 11:59 PM 02/11/14 11:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,356 Kentucky D dfsmopars OP top fuel
dfsmopars OP top fuel D Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,356 Kentucky	OK nobody is really talking about Powermasters. Worth the money or not? Here are some technical questions: 1. What does round back vs. square back mean? 2. What does one wire vs. two wire mean? (mine has two wires plus the 12V lug) ‘72 Charger, 5.9 Magnum, Tremec 5 spd., Pro-Touring ‘14 Big Horn, Quad Cab, 4x4, 1500

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: therocks] #1577242 02/12/14 01:08 AM 02/12/14 01:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: The cost is still pricey.Then try telling a customer you want 65 bucks an hour at the time to rebuild one.Even when I was doing them all the time it was about 45 minutes to an hour.Then add R&R and parts.Rocky Hence the DO IT YOURSELF part of the comment. Less than $30 in parts gets you new bearings, diodes, brushes and an output cap if you want one. More than that and you may as well scrap it. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: dfsmopars] #1577243 02/12/14 02:18 AM 02/12/14 02:18 AM
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71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,467 Morristown Tn.	Call Dixie restoration parts, they can get you original done.Best service around.

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: 71birdJ68] #1577244 02/12/14 02:44 AM 02/12/14 02:44 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	I have the big Leece Neville beast with the fan behind the pulley with brackets for a BB tho I ain't used it yet but all reports on it are favorable (exc for its' weight). My next one will be to try a JC whitney kit to upgrade a std squareback. Several people said they work. It'd be nice if that upgrade gives more output at idle, I'm gonna find out live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: Supercuda] #1577245 02/12/14 10:54 AM 02/12/14 10:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,091 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,091 Niles , Ohio	Round back was the early type.It used the points reg and had 1 field wire.They work good if you use the new stock type reg thats transistorized.The Square back has 2 field wires and what sound like what you have.Uses the lare type flat reg and puts out more amps.Single wire has reg built in and only the hot wire for it.I run a Summit chrome alt in y 65 that was converted to new style reg with 2 fields.My kid runs his single type alt with the OE looking reg that is transistorized.Has been in his car since 98 and no problems.Mine has been in for at least 8 years.Power masters are pricey.I believe Summits brand is the same just in their box.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: dfsmopars] #1577246 02/12/14 11:04 AM 02/12/14 11:04 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Is a Powermaster alternator at $129 that much better than a $55 parts house alternator? This is for a street driven muscle car. Yes!

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: Challenger 1] #1577247 02/13/14 05:00 PM 02/13/14 05:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,241 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,241 Someplace you aren't	I would check around for a local rebuilder. I used to have great luck with one when I had time to get it to them and back. The parts house offerings are hit and miss. I like to run the YO harness with the updated wiring for electronic reg and electronic ignition. That and cleaning all grounds or adding them has made the biggest difference in many cars for me. Seems like either cars are corroded original setups or repainted and no care taken. I want my fair share

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: SomeCarGuy] #1577248 02/13/14 10:34 PM 02/13/14 10:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,482 Lake Orion, MI goldduster318 pro stock
goldduster318 pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,482 Lake Orion, MI	for a driver, you're better off going away form the stock style mopar alternator. I run a 78A 12SI delco I got at advance for $60. Internally regulated (not one wire), good charging at idle, and I know even if it didn't already have a lifetime warranty that I could probably rebuild it myself without much trouble. The OE style mopar alternators seem to be more trouble than their worth. I went through 3 in ten years and 2 regulators. Swapped to the Delco and everything has worked perfect for 3 years. Even runs the electric fans without the lights dimming. '70 Duster 470hp 340/T56 Magnum/8 3/4 3.23 Sure-Grip

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: goldduster318] #1577249 02/14/14 08:54 AM 02/14/14 08:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,912 Athens, Greece Pyper70 master
Pyper70 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,912 Athens, Greece	had a 120amp Powermaster Single wire on my 70 Charger and it churned out the juice handling H4 headlights, electric fans, and a 1500w stereo system. Just installed a PowerMaster 140amp in my buddy's 72 RR 440 and it is handling it, albeit it sticks out in the engine bay because you can tell its not stock. I have an Delco/Remy 100amp alternator in my Charger's engine bay. I run HID headlights and an electric fan. Not much of a stereo system because the symphony is under the hood. Its a two wire alternator, internally regulated, a rod check at idle turns it "on" so idling at 700rpm is giving me 14.6v Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: Pyper70] #1577250 02/14/14 12:50 PM 02/14/14 12:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,241 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,241 Someplace you aren't	I saw in the new MCG there is a USA made alt that looks sorta like the OEM, but has some new updated content. I want my fair share

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: SomeCarGuy] #1577251 02/14/14 01:40 PM 02/14/14 01:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,574 Lakeland FL F floridian pro stock
floridian pro stock F Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,574 Lakeland FL	Quote: I saw in the new MCG there is a USA made alt that looks sorta like the OEM, but has some new updated content. Any more info on this? 8039361-5554552-vertbaseball2.jpg (74 downloads)

Re: Alternator Brands [Re: dogdays] #1577252 02/14/14 02:13 PM 02/14/14 02:13 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan I Live Here
gdonovan I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: And I had a NAPA rebuilt alternator that burst into flames less than 5000 miles old. When I ran a garage a decade ago we stopped using NAPA starters and alternators as they were the worst. When you are running a shop the last thing you want is a comeback. The customer is pissed and any labor you made just went into a trashcan. Comebacks with NAPA stuff was one in three. As far as the reman's they sell now, just go with a new unit and be done with it. The last couple I purchased were junky with worn out cases, eroded threads and cheap replacement parts. The diodes were garbage compared to the originals. "I think its got a hemi"

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