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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565881
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Im curious what oiling setup will live at 8500+ ?


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565882
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In case anyone is interested in more class details

9" stock tire
3350 lbs with driver for all 3 of the manufacturers..
No trans brake
Ford 9"
No electric or air shifter allowed
3 speed transmissions

Dave Barton was the king of the hill at Indy this year in the shoot out.
If I remember correctly at Z Max they went 8.98 weeks later. Definitely halling the mail.

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565883
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Hmmm giving us a sneak peak of the new car…. I still have 15K for the yellow challenger

JB

Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: 72Swinger] #1565884
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I run the Melling pump with filter on the block. No remote.
All passages massaged.
We run jesel lifters so bores are bushed.
Oil thru trend pushrods.
6.1 crank treated

Have not experienced any oiling issues

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Funny I don't see a Yellow Challenger.

No idea what your talking about.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565886
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It must be on the other side of the shop with the “to be restored” cars

Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: 340RICK] #1565887
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Adjuster accessibility is real tough. Even on the Jesel. I have experienced some severe melt downs due to improper torquing of adjuster nuts. Resulted in broken rockers and internal devastation as I tell my wife. Lol

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: 733404spdCuda] #1565888
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Good eye it's the last one to go.

Lora wants it done so she can drive it. Lol

If not she says she's driving the red road runner. OH Boy

Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565889
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Mike,
This is a very interesting project please keep us posted on all aspects.
Good Luck!
Bill Lamb

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I can tell that's an old picture... that black road runner is sitting in front of a 1/2 done primer duster in a different zip code right now...

Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565891
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Quote:

I run the Melling pump with filter on the block. No remote.
All passages massaged.
We run jesel lifters so bores are bushed.
Oil thru trend pushrods.
6.1 crank treated

Have not experienced any oiling issues




Is your 6.1 a production crank?
Matt

Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565892
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Adjuster accessibility is real tough. Even on the Jesel. I have experienced some severe melt downs due to improper torquing of adjuster nuts. Resulted in broken rockers and internal devastation as I tell my wife. Lol


maybe give Andy at PWR a call, he would at least know what is possible.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565893
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I was on the horn last week with the HS engineer. We were talking about the oiling problems with their hyd non adjustable lifters and then the discussion turned into their adj rockers using a solid cam. They said they haven't had any issues so far. I'm sure Barton would know for a fact.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: hemidup] #1565894
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HS rockers in action. I don't like the looks of the oil pouring out the sides

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=413...e=2&theater


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: sixpackgut] #1565895
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Wow that is a lot of oil leakage on the exhaust side rockers.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: sixpackgut] #1565896
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HS rockers in action. I don't like the looks of the oil pouring out the sides

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=413...e=2&theater


Yeah i dont either, but it almost looks like pushrod oiling and it was coming from the cups to me??

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: MattW] #1565897
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Yes it is

Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565898
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Yes it is



So much for turning stock crank above 7000 rpm bullsh1t.

BTW thank for sharing info. I do believe this is the way for the G3 to excel.
Matt

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: MattW] #1565899
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The 6.1 crank has been just fine. At the time it's all that was available

The 426 is a Callie's piece cause it is a 4" stroke.

Molnar is supplying my new cranks for the next 6.1 builds.

Going back to dyno next week with some stiffer rocker shafts.

Mike

Re: Gen 3 Hemi Rocker Arms [Re: SC304] #1565900
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Hello Who's dyno due you use?? Thanks

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