Any advice on Panther Pink paint?
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My Challenger needs to be redone. Any advice on paint brand to use and what process to follow?
I'd love an original single stage enamel but I realize that may not be practical. I try to only drive the car in nice weather but I do drive it as opposed to trailering it. It doesn't get washed unless I get caught in the rain. I do use a spray shine on it and a California duster.
Thanks for your opinions and advice.
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Re: Any advice on Panther Pink paint?
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11/25/08 06:22 PM
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Ken......while I'm a big user of dupont products, and like the high glamour finish of the Dupont BC/CC Chroma Priemier line,.......If your searching for a single stage finish, to look "factory",.....I'd recommend you get the "pink", in Duponts IMRON line,....a real tuff single stage finish, not for "beginners",....IMRON is very tuff to wetsand and buff, if you have a booboo!, it can be done, but best to avoid if possible,.....Moulin Rouge/ Panther Pink mix formula is available in IMRON
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Re: Any advice on Panther Pink paint?
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Agree with much of what was said above. I used PPG DC single stage. You WILL find that supposedly the SAME PP color is different from different sources. Some shades look too blue, some too white. If you have ever seen two PP cars near each other at a show I'll bet many times they looked different. My number 1 priority was getting the correct color (because that is what I liked, not because my car is original. But also why have it PP if it is actually going to be a different color?). I had samples from different brands and none of them looked "right" - a very subjective measurable of course. However I did see a car at a show in Calif once which did look spot-on and I talked to the owner. He had had an original untouched sample (i.e. unfaded part of his original car) and had found that PPG was a dead match That was good enough for me....so I went ahead and used it. The PPG/Ditzler code is 2260 BTW, it seems a rather strange color (no, not because it is pink!). It really looks a different color in different lighting, and my painter also told be it was a bit like a metallic when it came to color matching (i.e. he thought it was very difficult to blend-in a part panel)
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Re: Any advice on Panther Pink paint?
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11/28/08 11:46 AM
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Ken: Your car is painted in Sherwin Williams. At that time it was the only paint that was close to being correct. However it was painted more than 20 years ago. Getting the correct colour will be the hardest challenge especially with clear coat and FM3 doesn't look nice unless it is the exact correct hue. The paint was a problem on that car, the painter used SW colour then he clearcoated it, I'm not sure what he clearcoated it with. I let the car sit for a month and then I couldn't get ahold of the painter to wetsand and buff it (later turned out he was in jail). I checked with a bunch of shops and finally decided to wetsand and buff it myself. As soon as I touched sandpaper to the clear I got colour so something went wrong as the colour had mixed in with the clear. At that time all of the Pro buffing products would not bring the gloss back, what did bring the gloss back a bit was old fashioned Turtle wax polishing compound. I finally got ahold of the painter and arranged to have the car repainted but he died in a plane crash before repainting it. Anyway just a bit of sordid history on your car. I believe it was recleared after I sold the car and the rocker moldings removed at the same time.
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Re: Any advice on Panther Pink paint?
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11/28/08 03:20 PM
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I am by no means a paint expert.. But this A12 Bee was done in single stage Glasurit. The finish is absolutely perfect, and this paint is legendary for it's toughness.
Super nice Bee! there Mike .....and yes Glasurit single stage is very popular with restorers looking for single stage paints,.......however a lot of formulas to mix "properly" have been "lost", or altered, and the original colors are no longer really represented, plus too many "kids" mixing paint nowadays,.....they can do it, but they know not, what they are doing,......when I did a FM3 car, Panther Pink/ Moulin Rouge was "tuff" to get right,.....I spent many a days in different paint shops, testing mixes, and sprayouts,......Dupont BC/CC chroma primere and Duponts Imron were the only formulas that had the right amount of "color/ light" shift present in them.....
When I paint a car, I like it to look original in color, but yet have some "effect" to the paint, otherwise it looks rather "dull".......
F6 was another one of those "tuff" colors to get "right",.....
Another side to paint/color match as well, is the prep, baseshade on the body,...plus "technique" and coverage in painting can alter the finish, or effect
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Re: Any advice on Panther Pink paint?
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11/28/08 03:40 PM
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Ken: Your car is painted in Sherwin Williams. At that time it was the only paint that was close to being correct. However it was painted more than 20 years ago. Getting the correct colour will be the hardest challenge especially with clear coat and FM3 doesn't look nice unless it is the exact correct hue.
Sheldon
.....Sherwin Williams is indeed a good match color/shade wise,....but didn't offer an "effect" to it, being able to "shift" slightly in different light or reflective influence,.......on the other hand, Dupount BC/CC chroma primere had that "effect"......on one of my customers FM3 cars, it was one of the reasons I went with that instead,.....while the SW was indeed a good match, it had a rather "dead" look to it ........plus IMHO SW is a rather "sub-par" automotive paint,......I know! I'll hear about that one!
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Re: Any advice on Panther Pink paint?
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I agree with S-W not exactly being top notch paint. BTW that FM3 looked purple under flouescant lights, that was the coolest stock colour ever.
Sheldon
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Re: Any advice on Panther Pink paint?
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11/28/08 09:49 PM
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Ken why don't you call Ken Katarynchuk and ask him what paint etc he used on his FM3 R/T SE. The car turned out absolutely incredible. He won the Mr. Norms award at the Belvedere plant show this summer. It's just too bad it wasn't completed in time for the All Chrysler Nationals at Carlisle when all the Pink cars got together. It would be great to see both of your cars together especially since they both sold new out of the same dealership in Calgary. Ken and I were parked next to each other at a local show this summer and it was hilarious listening to all the "experts" divulge their knowledge about Pink cars One thing for sure, it attracted every babe at the show.
Doug Lepak
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