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There is a place for everything.
There is a place in my heart for old school muscle, which is why my Plymouth will stay carbed, never have AC, overdrive, etc.

But in terms of modern, affordable performance, you can't beat the LS platform. Plentiful in boneyards, ton of aftermarket and factory support. They make good power out of the box, and can make big power with some effort. For someone looking to go EFI, roller cam, overdrive...this is the most logical option....at least it's still American....haha

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OD isnt a bad thing...I went with a 518 trans for
the road and its still a normal 727 for the track...
its in my Rampage.. but its a dual purpose ride...
I'm looking at a modern hemi to put in if I can find
one at a decent price.. if I do it I might even twin
turbo it just for kicks... I dont need anything over
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There is a place for everything.
There is a place in my heart for old school muscle, which is why my Plymouth will stay carbed, never have AC, overdrive, etc.

But in terms of modern, affordable performance, you can't beat the LS platform. Plentiful in boneyards, ton of aftermarket and factory support. They make good power out of the box, and can make big power with some effort. For someone looking to go EFI, roller cam, overdrive...this is the most logical option....at least it's still American....haha

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OD isnt a bad thing...I went with a 518 trans for
the road and its still a normal 727 for the track...
its in my Rampage.. but its a dual purpose ride...
I'm looking at a modern hemi to put in if I can find
one at a decent price.. if I do it I might even twin
turbo it just for kicks... I dont need anything over
600HP

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Got mine for 300. Broken rod. Matt

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Did it tear up the block... I wont mind paying more
for a intact(running 5.7) but then I'd go through it
for some better parts

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Hey STREETWIZE! You are right!!! I'am a true diehard mopar guy, but in the last 10+ years worked on the LS MOTORS!! Have you look at the LS-7 head? I have one hear in garage! On a 4.125 bore @.400 lift it flows 303cfm!!!!!! Find another head to match that!!! Someone needs to make one fit the, "LA" block!!! Would need to be biger port foe the big block!! I still the more development needs to be done for a "B" engine block!!!! Combinatoin's A good aftermarket black, without side rails, more like a big block chevy!! And put a real oil pan on it, and it will make more power!!! Why due you think that Richard Maskins is making a block for the 'LS" without side rails!!!

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5.7 eagle on a 4 inch bore goes 275 Cfm.
Don't know about the 6.1 or Apache but I think they would be right with the LS7.

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I see cheap gen 3 motors all the time on craigslist,junkyard are full of trucks with them,its the aftermarket crap that you have to sell you soul to the devil and mortgage the house to afford parts.its nothing but aftermarket greed.i see aftermarket carb intakes on ebay for 900 bucks,really?and the fuel/ignition management technology is ridiculously expensive,thats stickin it right up our tailpipes.its gaining popularity,but the manufacturers still see hemi=thick wallet.hopefully parts will someday be at a comparable price before everybody that's not wealthy walks away.....

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I hear ya on the aftermarket stuff.. I will build
my own intake if I stay with a carb... for $900 I
can build a whole lot of intake... I might even stay
with the stock heads or MAYBE look at the aftermarket

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There is a place for everything.
There is a place in my heart for old school muscle, which is why my Plymouth will stay carbed, never have AC, overdrive, etc.

But in terms of modern, affordable performance, you can't beat the LS platform. Plentiful in boneyards, ton of aftermarket and factory support. They make good power out of the box, and can make big power with some effort. For someone looking to go EFI, roller cam, overdrive...this is the most logical option....at least it's still American....haha

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OD isnt a bad thing...I went with a 518 trans for
the road and its still a normal 727 for the track...
its in my Rampage.. but its a dual purpose ride...
I'm looking at a modern hemi to put in if I can find
one at a decent price.. if I do it I might even twin
turbo it just for kicks... I dont need anything over
600HP

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Got mine for 300. Broken rod. Matt

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Did it tear up the block... I wont mind paying more
for a intact(running 5.7) but then I'd go through it
for some better parts

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You guys kill me. If everyone was putting a hemi in everything I'll bet everyone would be happy. If we had the factory support like the LS we would be having this conversation.
Hell I'll bet that if we had a quarter of the support the LS has the hemi would be king.
The LS is a great engine that's why mopar build the hemi similar to it. Take the heads of and have a look.
The LS program is basically idiot proof. Go fast with not too much thinking.
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Look at all the parts they have available. We will never have this kind of support for anything Mopar. All Ma is interested in is selling new cars.

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You guys kill me. If everyone was putting a hemi in everything I'll bet everyone would be happy. If we had the factory support like the LS we would be having this conversation.
Hell I'll bet that if we had a quarter of the support the LS has the hemi would be king.
The LS is a great engine that's why mopar build the hemi similar to it. Take the heads of and have a look.
The LS program is basically idiot proof. Go fast with not too much thinking.
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Look at all the parts they have available. We will never have this kind of support for anything Mopar. All Ma is interested in is selling new cars.

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Yes a agree and it probably won't change.
I do believe the hemi head is superior to the LS.
Very little short turn + high speed port.
Everything being equal in a shootout LS vs Hemi. I believe the Hemi would make more power.

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@ Tim,

Whare are you in NC? we're neighbors we got to meet up sometime.

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I'm in Kannapolis about 30miles N of Charlotte You need to bring the Rocky up to the cruise in here that starts in March, people will love that and we need more Mopars lol

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@ Tim,

Whare are you in NC? we're neighbors we got to meet up sometime.

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I'm in Kannapolis about 30miles N of Charlotte You need to bring the Rocky up to the cruise in here that starts in March, people will love that and we need more Mopars lol

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I say who cares ? Sure as heck not me as I will never put a Chevy eng in a Mopar to start with. Thats because I like 60's and 70's muscle cars and the LS whatever you guys are talking about is not even in my vocabulary. Now the LS6 Chevell 454 is a nice 70 muscle car eng and I like it in a Chevy. Myself I dont like putting new modern engines in old 60's and 70's muscle cars. The guys that are into the new stuff including that LS whatever eng then good for them but not me. If I see a 69 Camaro with a new modern GM eng at the track or a car show I dont even look at it. Ron

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I say who cares ? Sure as heck not me as I will never put a Chevy eng in a Mopar to start with. Thats because I like 60's and 70's muscle cars and the LS whatever you guys are talking about is not even in my vocabulary. Now the LS6 Chevell 454 is a nice 70 muscle car eng and I like it in a Chevy. Myself I dont like putting new modern engines in old 60's and 70's muscle cars. The guys that are into the new stuff including that LS whatever eng then good for them but not me. If I see a 69 Camaro with a new modern GM eng at the track or a car show I dont even look at it. Ron

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Ron I agree, but we're dinosaurs. I grew up with Mopars, my Uncles had them. Plus in the late 70's they could be bought cheap. But what about now? Honestly, if you were young with limited funds and bit by the go fast bug could you afford Mopars? You can buy a 80-90's Camaro for almost nothing. Add a junk yard LS, a turbo and go fast cheap! Plus there are a ton of aftermarket parts for them. How about the new Hemi? How many aftermarket blocks have you seen? Heads? Intakes?Engine controllers? You get my point.

Please don't take me wrong, I love my Mopars and have NEVER owned a GM. But.....if I were starting over with nothing and wanted to go fast it probably wouldn't be a Mopar. I wouldn't be able to afford them.

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Your right.... a LOT of Mopar people have that
dinosaur mentality ... I'm all Mopar but to say I
would never put a modern hemi in a older car is down
right backwards... most of the dinosaur guys would
say... "it doesnt look right" BULL.. its just different..
if I find one its going into something that I own..
I might even pull that big heavy BB out of my 38 Ply
and put a new hemi in it with OD and all... Hell I'm
old and I still look at what goes fast and cheap is
a plus, so the new hemi does fall into that.. sure
you can start throwing bucks at it to go faster but
stock in a light car will stomp on MOST BB on the street